8th House Lord in 5th House


Last updated on June 5th, 2020 at 12:26 pm

What does 8th House Lord in 5th House mean?

When the planet that controls the 8th house of the natal birth chart is located in the 5th house from the ascendant sign, it means to have this planetary combination.

As a general effect of this combination, the significations of the 5th house, such as progeny, romance, matters of the heart, intuition, feelings, intelligence, speculative abilities, name, fame, authoritative abilities, etc are influenced by the significances of the 8th house such as spirituality, transformations, hidden talents, occult knowledge, everything hidden or underneath the surface, darkness, fears, everything uncertain & unexpected, as well as hidden treasures, talents, etc.

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The considered combination produces some negative effects on the 5th house as the 8t house is a natural malefic house which is called Dusthana Bhava in sidereal Vedic astrology.

Despite the fact that the 8th ruler carries malefic energies, it can also produce positive outcomes when it is auspiciously positioned.

Moreover, when the 8th house lord is in the 5th house, it is in 10th from its own sign which adds auspicious intonation to this combination in question. It is so because the 10th is the most auspicious quadrant house or Kendra Bhava, which signifies karma or main duties, social rank & status, high achievements, etc.

The 10th is also a house of gradual growth and improvement or Upachaya Bhava, which makes the results 8th ruler in 5th house stronger, be it positive or negative.

In addition to that, the 8th house belongs to the triangle of salvation or Moksha Trikona and the 5th belongs to the triangle of righteousness or Dharma Trikona. In general, the auspicious connection between these houses indicates spiritual tendencies that also lead to righteous lifepath.

Results of 8th House Lord in 5th House

Limited Progeny

In classical scripture, Brihat Parashara Hora Shastra, it is mentioned that people with this combination have fewer children.

The reason for this effect is the negative influence of a malefic house lord in the 5th house of progeny.

The general reason for this is that the native is overly ambitious and less concentrated on having children. The ambitious disposition is formed by the 10th disposition of this combination between the houses involved.

As a result, the native is more concerned about career and social life rather than having children.

If the combination is well-formed, it suggests that the native has children, but a limited amount.

Alternatively, if the combination is negatively formed, it indicates not having children due to various reasons such as broken feelings, relationships, or even abortion in rare cases.

Lack Of Happiness From Children

It is also mentioned that such individuals are devoid of happiness from their children. This is caused by the disruptive and disharmonizing energies of the 8th house.

In other words, there are frequent issues in the relationship between the natives and their children.

Authoritative Parenting

The main reason for disharmony is that the native is extremely authoritative when it comes to raising children. That is to say, the native imposes rules and manners to their children which indeed causes lots of sudden bursts of negative energies by the children.

The highly authoritative style of raisin children is provided by various astrological facts. To be specific, the 10th disposition indicates rules, laws, high authority while the 5th indicates general authority itself, as being a natural home for Sun-ruled Leo zodiac sign.

If this combination is well-formed, then the native is able to successfully transfer their authoritative demands and way of thinking to their children.

It also provides a lot of intelligence to children as being raised in a strict and hard way. As we know, hardships always make the person grow by forcing them to leave the comfort zone. It is exactly what happens with this combination, the native forces their children to leave out of their comfort zone to grow and evolve gradually.

On the contrary, if this combination is ill-formed, that is, the 8th ruler is in bad dignity in the 5th house, it provides bad habits to the children of the native. That is to say, they become sinful, immoral, and sometimes develop criminal tendencies especially during puberty.

It is self-explanatory that this situation increases the negative energies of this combination.

As a result, the native becomes extremely cruel and harsh because of the bad habits and addictions of their children. It also means that the native is a bad role model to their children in the first place because negatively positioned 8th lord provides a sinful personality.

Spiritual Wisdom & Righteousness

As mentioned earlier, the 8th house is about salvation and 5th is about righteousness. To be specific, the 8th house signifies spiritual tendencies through sudden events, fears, and darkness which initiate the process of transformation which eventually leads to spiritual awakening.

At the same time, the energies of the 5th house represent righteousness which is assured to the native if the 8th lord is well placed in the given house.

With a positive formation of this combination, it indicates that native is free from negative and sinful behavior patterns which enables them to become spiritually pure and awakened which further renders to moral and righteous actions.

Alternatively, if this combination is ill-formed, it indicates that the native develops negative greed for power and authority and tries to achieve it through frauds, cheats, aggression, or other sinful activities.

Moreover, it also indicates that the native becomes very dangerous as having no spiritual purity and righteousness in their interests.

Sudden Status & Earnings

As there is a 10th disposition between the 8th and 5th houses, it indicates that these natives are inclined to perform kind and righteous acts in society through main activities, career, or business.

A well placed 8th lord which forms the 10th disposition enables the native to shine brightly in their society and filed of activity. What is more, the rise of status takes place unexpectedly.

Moreover, the 10th belongs to the triangle of wealth or Artha Trikona which in the positive form of this combination indicates that by using the hidden senses, intuition, and intelligence combined with a sudden rise in career the native is capable of earning a considerably good amount of wealth.

The pious acts and righteous attitude towards society provides a lot of support in the earnings of the native.

As the 5th also belongs to stock markets and speculation, it indicates unexpected gains through investments. What is great about this combination is that these natives are guided towards good investment decisions by strong intuition combined with great intellect.

In addition to that, the 8th lord casts a direct aspect upon the 11th house of large networks, communities, and fulfillment of ambitions. This indicates that they perform well in these matters and are capable of earning through networks or cooperating with large amount of people.

Negatively, if this combination is ill-formed it indicates addiction to gambling and produces a compulsive gambler which causes sudden and great losses of wealth.

In addition to that, the greedy disposition causes wrong decisions which further damages the financial condition.

Religious truth & wisdom to bless your life

Keep repenting and repeating secretly in mind: "God is enough for me and I bear witness that there is no other worthy of worship than the Almighty Creator alone" for the joy and abundance of God to flow in.
(Surat al-Baqarah 2:163)

Whoever makes the Hereafter (aims for piety & righteousness to attain salvation) his/her goal, Allah (english: God) makes his/her heart rich, and organizes his/her affairs, and the world comes to him/her whether it wants to or not.
(Jami` at-Tirmidhi 2465)

And God is the most merciful and loving. The God Almighty said: By My might and majesty, I will continue to forgive them, as long as they seek My forgiveness.
(Musnad Aḥmad 11237)

And God protects the faithul more than a caring Mother protects her child.
(Sahih al-Bukhari 5999)

Do not perform idolatry, impiety, disrespect for parents. Never endanger lives (saving one life is like saving whole humanity). Do not commit theft, adultery, false witness (disregard all cruel conspiracies towards innocent believers), and do not envy.
(Surat al-An’am 6:151-153)

The Messenger of God [PBUH] used to stress charity in his sermons, and prohibit mutilation. But protect truth and believers at all costs.
(Sunan an-Nasa'i 4047)

There must be no racism, sects, tribes, or gangs amongst you, and take special care of women, and increased rewards get those who educate women especially who suffer in calamities.
(The Last Sermon, Riyad as-Salihin 278)

Holy Prophet [PBUH] raised the status of and established legal rights for women which were never present before, and protected them from harassment, and stressed duty and good treatment to mother. Also, completely prohibited injustice towards girl-children (unjust people used to get rid of them for financial reasons).

(Sahih al-Bukhari 3446, Al-Adab Al-Mufrad 5, al-Baqarah 2:228)

All people are practically beleivers if they believe in one God, The Prophets (some of them: Solomon, Moses, Jesus) and The Seal of Prophets (Muhammad) peace be upon them. That is, do not be quick to judge and leave judgment to God except when there is direct threat to righteous beleivers.

All people are practically beleivers if they believe in one God, The Prophets (some of them: Solomon, Moses, Jesus) and The Seal of Prophets (Muhammad) peace be upon them. That is, do not be quick to judge and leave judgment to God except when there is direct threat to righteous beleivers.
I heard Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying while pointing his hands towards the east: The turmoil would appear from this side; verily, the turmoil would appear from this side (he repeated it thrice)(Sahih Muslim 2905e).

Muhammad [PBUH] was most akin to Jesus [PBUH], who is coming back, and the best of people will be under protection of Jesus [PBUH].
(Riyad as-Salihin 1808)

Some of The Last Words of God via The Last Prophet [PBUH]

Hidden Intelligence & Intuition

If the 8th house lord is well placed in the 5th house, it provides a great amount of deep and hidden intelligence to the native, which surfaces suddenly as the native progresses in career or social life.

As the 8th signifies everything is hidden and knowledge of occult science, it equips the native with a deep intelligence that helps in researching various sciences and understand the society in a better way.

Moreover, the strong 8th lord also provides a very strong intuition which helps to make correct decisions without thinking much. In fact, as the 8th signifies hidden wisdom and the 5th intuition, the auspicious connection between these houses produce extraordinary powerful intuition and hidden sense.

On the contrary, if the 8th ruler is ill-placed in the fifth house, it indicates having a lack of intelligence because of fraudulent and immature thoughts and interests.

It also indicates using the little knowledge they have in wrong and immoral pursuits that eventually lead to disasters and sudden obstructions because of the karmic laws of the 8th house.


BPHS states that this combination promotes longevity. The reason for this is that the 8th lord is connected with two houses of growth.

To be specific, it forms the 10th disposition while it aspects the 11thhouse. Both of these houses belong to the Upachaya Bhava house group which applies double energies regarding gradual growth and improvement.

At the same time, the 8th signifies longevity and if it is well placed, the longevity grows and increases.

Discover various planets in 5th house for more extensive results.

Classical Sources Used: BPHS, Saravali, Brihat Jataka, Lal Kitab, Yavan Jataka. References to The Last Word of God are included not to mix Sunnah Kitab or Quran with worldly science, but to offer the best cure for worldly issues. Always know that this science and the latest religious revelations are separated from each other for more than 5000 years. If you were to evolve from old Vedic science and adopt the latest religious teaching, the leap is worth more than 5000 years of human evolution. I am currently conducting theological updates on all articles, hence some errors may be there. All credit for increased wisdom goes to the best & brightest man who ever walked on Earth who is no other than the Greatest Blessing For Humanity & Seal of Prophets Muhammad ﷺ, and people who kindly taught me the Word of God. All glory to God Almighty.

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Martin Boldovski

All the articles are based on the information given by Ancient Sages as seen from various classical sources which are addressed to Vedic enthusiasts. My intention is to deliver this knowledge in the most original form possible, i.e free of blasphemy, with elaborated explanations which are supported by actual observations to help Vedic enthusiasts get rid of confusion and introduce the right guidance via The Last Word to get closer to God and attain inner bliss.

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