8th House Lord in 3rd House


Last updated on June 5th, 2020 at 12:18 pm

What does 8th House Lord in 3rd House mean?

When the planet that governs the 8th house of the natal birth chart is settled in the 3rd house from the ascendant sign, it means to have this planetary combination.

As a general result from this combination, the significances of the 3rd house, such as communication skills, valor, courage, the power to take action, efforts, skills, hard work, motivation, ambition, younger siblings, etc are influenced by the significations of the 8th house, such as spirituality, transformations, hidden talents, occult knowledge, everything hidden or underneath the surface, darkness, fears, everything uncertain & unexpected, as well as hidden treasures, talents, etc.

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The considered positioning of the 8th house ruler makes it another very interesting and significant combination. In fact, it is one of the best positions for the 8th lord to be in.

Namely, the 3rd house is the powerhouse or Bhavat Bhavam of the 8th house as per sidereal Vedic astrology. In other words, the 8th house from the 8th house is the 3rd house itself.

Hence, the positioning of the 8th ruler in the 3rd house becomes deeply strong as it connects with its powerhouse. However, as the 8th house is still a malefic house, it indicates certain hardships to the 3rd house matters.

The fact that 8th lord in 3rd house is in 8th from own sign, doubles the energies and effect of the 8th house. It also adds inauspiciousness, if the 8th lord is in bad dignity or weak in the 3rd house. That is, in order for this special combination to give positive outcomes out of initial hardships, the given combination should be well-formed.

It is also important to note that the 3rd house is a Upachaya Bhava or house of gradual growth and improvement where natural malefic perform more efficiently as having the strength and aggression to cope with intensively difficult energies provided by this combination.

Results of 8th House Lord in 3rd House

Disharmony With Siblings

One of the first things mentioned in classical texts of Vedic astrology is that individuals with this combination are devoid of happiness from siblings.

This effect is caused by the presence of malefic house lord in the 3rd house of younger siblings which ultimately causes disharmony and events that damage the relationship between the natives and siblings.

If this combination is ill-formed, it indicates that there is enmity out of jealousy between the natives and their siblings.

However, if the 8th lord is in good dignity, it indicates that the younger siblings of the native are very strong, will-powered, and skilled. They are also rather harsh and aggressive but they cooperate well with the native with this combination despite frequent quarrels and dominance issues.

Struggles For Success

As from the Bhavat Bhavam connection of the houses involved in this combination, the 8th house gains power and the significations of the given house are amplified to a great extent.

As the 3rd house is related to hard work, efforts, and struggles the presence of 8th lord in this house causes a lot of upheavals and sudden unseen obstacles that prompt the natives to struggle even harder.

As a result, the native should always find ways to evolve faster than the hostile environment in order to prosper. They must constantly improve their skillsets and mental strength in order to keep up with the heavy energies that the 8th house provides.

Therefore, it is crucial for the given house lord to be in good shape and dignity in the 3rd house for positive outcomes. if the combination is well-formed, it indicates that the native has a very aggressive, undefeatable, strong, and durable mentality which helps them to keep going despite upheavals and the presence of lots of obstacles on the path.

Extreme Strength

The 8th house is the natural home for Mars-ruled 8th zodiac sign Scorpio, which is all about physical strength and aggression. As the 8th lord in the 3rd house is in 8th from its own sign, it adds double the energies of the 8th house.

The special Bhavat Bhavam connection and linkage between these houses from this combination provide the native a lot of aggression and physical strength, especially if the 8th ruler is a natural malefic planet.

Specifically, the 3rd correlates to arms and hands, which suggests immense strength and skills of hands to the native.

On the contrary, if the 8th ruler is ill-placed in the third house, it indicates a lack of physical strength and skills of hands. The natives feel drained out of energy all the time and struggle to find courage and ambition.

Determined & Decisive

The placement of 8th lord in its powerhouse, the 3rd house also provides a lot of determination and ambition to the native with this combination.

The decision-making abilities and valor of these individuals are very strong which enables them to make efficient decisions very quickly. This is especially crucial and favorable character trait as the powerful 8th lord showers these natives with unexpected events and situations that provoke the natives to make lightning-fast decisions in every situation.

In fact, if the combination is well-formed, it indicates that these natives perform excellently in intensive, stressful, and difficult environments where circumstances change quickly and often.

If the given combination is ill-formed, it indicates that these natives lack determination and will-power which also damages their decisionmaking capability.

As the 8th signifies fears and darkness, it negatively indicates that the mind of the native is excessively preoccupied with various fears of negativity which drains their energy, valor, and will-power.

Hence, the negative form of this combination causes a very self-destructive character to the native.

Exceptional Communication Skills

Another important significance of the 3rd house is communication, both written and verbal.

The positioning of 8th lord in its powerhouse provides a lot of hidden talents and wisdom to the native which increases communication skills in many ways.

Firstly, as the 8th signifies everything hidden, including hidden wisdom and understanding of how everything in life works from underneath. That is, this house provides an understanding of how everything works in a perfect system.

As the given house ruler is settled in the 3rd house, it binds this deep knowledge and understanding of life with communication skills. As a result, the native becomes extremely aware of various sciences in life that enables them to communicate and respond proficiently.

They have a deep interest and motivation for deep research of various topics which boosts their mental intelligence and skillset in a great way. Their skills and tremendous ill-power enable them to take advantage of every situation in life, no matter how hard and difficult. They are hard workers and willing to put in a lot of effort in order to prosper even in the most difficult situations.

As the 3rd house suggests, these natives can be also involved in writing, media, or publishing-related activities where their exceptional skills are for their best benefit and their greatest advantage.

The 8th house adds mysterious intonation to their writing and communication style. Hence, these natives are perfectly fit for communications and publications work where secret knowledge and mysticism are involved. With that being said, they are deeply creative.

As the 8th house is all about transformation, and rebirth of the soul it indicates that the style of communication, both written and verbal is inspired by the transformation itself.

They make very reliable information transfer personnel who make sure that details are delivered no matter how difficult the work environment is.

As they possess deeply strong and wise mental capabilities, they are also perfectly fit for activities where they do a lot of research on something, just like forensic scientists for example. In fact, it is their natural passion to communicate and publish about hidden topics, such as archaeology, history, the symbolism of ancient sciences, mysterious stories, detective stories, etc.

Religious truth & wisdom to bless your life

Keep repenting and repeating secretly in mind: "God is enough for me and I bear witness that there is no other worthy of worship than the Almighty Creator alone" for the joy and abundance of God to flow in.
(Surat al-Baqarah 2:163)

Whoever makes the Hereafter (aims for piety & righteousness to attain salvation) his/her goal, Allah (english: God) makes his/her heart rich, and organizes his/her affairs, and the world comes to him/her whether it wants to or not.
(Jami` at-Tirmidhi 2465)

And God is the most merciful and loving. The God Almighty said: By My might and majesty, I will continue to forgive them, as long as they seek My forgiveness.
(Musnad Aḥmad 11237)

And God protects the faithul more than a caring Mother protects her child.
(Sahih al-Bukhari 5999)

Do not perform idolatry, impiety, disrespect for parents. Never endanger lives (saving one life is like saving whole humanity). Do not commit theft, adultery, false witness (disregard all cruel conspiracies towards innocent believers), and do not envy.
(Surat al-An’am 6:151-153)

The Messenger of God [PBUH] used to stress charity in his sermons, and prohibit mutilation. But protect truth and believers at all costs.
(Sunan an-Nasa'i 4047)

There must be no racism, sects, tribes, or gangs amongst you, and take special care of women, and increased rewards get those who educate women especially who suffer in calamities.
(The Last Sermon, Riyad as-Salihin 278)

Holy Prophet [PBUH] raised the status of and established legal rights for women which were never present before, and protected them from harassment, and stressed duty and good treatment to mother. Also, completely prohibited injustice towards girl-children (unjust people used to get rid of them for financial reasons).

(Sahih al-Bukhari 3446, Al-Adab Al-Mufrad 5, al-Baqarah 2:228)

All people are practically beleivers if they believe in one God, The Prophets (some of them: Solomon, Moses, Jesus) and The Seal of Prophets (Muhammad) peace be upon them. That is, do not be quick to judge and leave judgment to God except when there is direct threat to righteous beleivers.

All people are practically beleivers if they believe in one God, The Prophets (some of them: Solomon, Moses, Jesus) and The Seal of Prophets (Muhammad) peace be upon them. That is, do not be quick to judge and leave judgment to God except when there is direct threat to righteous beleivers.
I heard Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying while pointing his hands towards the east: The turmoil would appear from this side; verily, the turmoil would appear from this side (he repeated it thrice)(Sahih Muslim 2905e).

Muhammad [PBUH] was most akin to Jesus [PBUH], who is coming back, and the best of people will be under protection of Jesus [PBUH].
(Riyad as-Salihin 1808)

Some of The Last Words of God via The Last Prophet [PBUH]

On the contrary, if the 8th lord is weak and in bad dignity in the 3rd house, it indicates that these natives become very jealous, inimical, self-destructive, and harmful to the environment.

It also indicates that these natives can be involved in the creation of false conspiracy theories against people or organizations.

Spiritual Wisdom & Higher Knowledge

Speaking of deep wisdom, this combination can bless with spiritual knowledge which can lead to enlightenment.

It is because the 8th belongs to the triangle of salvation or Moksha Trikona, the energies of which are doubled with this combination.

At the same time, the 3rd belongs to the triangle of desires which clearly indicates a strong desire to attain enlightenment because of being concerned about salvation.

This combination suggests that the transformational processes are experienced through the significations of the 3rd house, such as siblings, communication, hard work, etc.

It means that working hard and constantly developing skills is what makes the soul of such natives grow and evolve. It also means that the interaction with younger siblings plays a major role in the spiritual processes of natives with this combination.

If this combination is well-formed, it leads to the discovery of deep spiritual knowledge through transformation and research of deep, hidden, and mysterious topics in life. This will further help to become spiritually awakened and enlightened.

The transformative processes are initiated by the presence of many difficult situations which are provided by a strong 8th lord.

Moreover, the 8th lord is casting a direct aspect upon the 9th house from the 3rd house. Herein the 9th signifies higher wisdom, fortune, philosophy, religion, faith, righteousness, and ethics.

Accordingly, with the well-placed 8th lord in the given house, the native is fortunate regarding higher wisdom and spiritual knowledge. The combination of hidden wisdom and higher wisdom is very beneficial.

The considered aspect upon the 9th house also indicates being righteous and ethical in general. As these natives are righteous their fortune is backed by the divine support from almighty God.

Alternatively, if the given combination is ill-formed, it means that the native develops destructive behavior from negative jealousy, greed, and hatred which will also block the spiritual energies of the 8th house.

In this situation, the hostile environment and circumstances win over the natives and influence them negatively by increasing their self-destructive mentality.

Discover various planets in 3rd house for more extensive results.

Classical Sources Used: BPHS, Saravali, Brihat Jataka, Lal Kitab, Yavan Jataka. References to The Last Word of God are included not to mix Sunnah Kitab or Quran with worldly science, but to offer the best cure for worldly issues. Always know that this science and the latest religious revelations are separated from each other for more than 5000 years. If you were to evolve from old Vedic science and adopt the latest religious teaching, the leap is worth more than 5000 years of human evolution. I am currently conducting theological updates on all articles, hence some errors may be there. All credit for increased wisdom goes to the best & brightest man who ever walked on Earth who is no other than the Greatest Blessing For Humanity & Seal of Prophets Muhammad ﷺ, and people who kindly taught me the Word of God. All glory to God Almighty.

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All the articles are based on the information given by Ancient Sages as seen from various classical sources which are addressed to Vedic enthusiasts. My intention is to deliver this knowledge in the most original form possible, i.e free of blasphemy, with elaborated explanations which are supported by actual observations to help Vedic enthusiasts get rid of confusion and introduce the right guidance via The Last Word to get closer to God and attain inner bliss.



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