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What does 5th House Lord in 8th House mean?
When the planet that governs the 5th house of the natal birth chart is located in the 8th house from the ascendant sign, it means to have this planetary combination of 5th lord in 8th.
What are the effects of the 5th House Lord in the 8th House?
As a general effect from this combination, the topics of the 8th house, such as transformation, unexpected events, gambling, sudden gains & losses, longevity, hidden senses, mystery, passion, hidden miracles, gains from joint assets, etc. are influenced by the significations of the 5th house, such as progeny, romance, speculation, intelligence, leadership abilities, speculation, authority, name, fame, past life, etc.
The planetary combination in question is providing mixed results, that is, gives both good and unfavorable results because of various reasons as per sidereal Vedic astrology.
The reason for unfavorable results is the malefic nature of the 8th house in astrology which belongs to the malefic house group and is named Dusthana Bhava for the same reason. Hence, it carries some negative significations, such as unexpected losses from sudden events, accidents, gambling, etc.
However, it also carries positive significations, such as gains of sudden events, including the gain of spirituality and enlightenment. Accordingly, the outcomes from this combination, whether positive or negative, are highly dependent on the positioning and condition of the 5th lord in the 8th house.
On the other hand, this combination carries a lot of auspicious results as well for a special reason. Namely, the 5th lord in the 8th house is in fourth from own sign/house. Whereas the 4th house is a very auspicious quadrant house and is called Kendra Bhava, which offers a lot of support and positive results regarding significations of 5th and 8th houses.
Results of 5th House Lord in 8th House
Progeny
The classical source of Vedic astrology, BPHS, states that people with this combination are devoid of the happiness of children.
There are various reasons for this effect. To begin with, the 5th house signifies progeny or children while the 8th house is the house of difficulties and disruption.
At the same time, the 5th lord in 8th is in the 4th from its own sign. The 4th house denotes peace of mind and happiness.
Hence, this combination is capable of causing a lot of disruption and tragedy regarding children which decreases happiness from progeny.
With that being said, the negative results are provided if the 5th lord is negatively positioned in the 8th house, which extracts negative significations of the 8th house.
Accordingly, is the 5th lord is damaged in the 8th house, it indicates that children of the native experience a lot of tragedies, especially in the romantic sphere (5th) which causes the loss of mental peace and happiness.
This also damages the relationship between children and the native. It is because this causes bad emotions and behaviors of the children which they express (5th) in an intense way.
As the 4th house also belongs to parenting and comforts from them, it also causes the children of the people with this combination to suffer on the account of these significances.
To be specific, the native is likely to become detached from their children mentally, which causes some coldness between them.
The 4th house signifies comforts and conveyances. Accordingly, if the 5th lord is ill-placed in 8th house it indicates that the children of the native are devoid of material comforts and conveyances because the native with this combination lacks luck and suffers unexpected losses in the first place.
If 5th lord well placed
Alternatively, this combination is also capable of producing auspicious results regarding progeny as from the 4th disposition of the 5th lord in the 8th house.
Accordingly, if the 5th lord is well-placed int he 8th house, it extracts various positive results from the 5th and 8th house significances through the means of the 4th house topics.
To begin with, the positive combination indicates that the children of the native have the capacity to grow internally and transform their souls and become better versions of themselves in the process.
Moreover, it indicates that they are intelligent and possess a lot of hidden talents and strong hidden senses which gives them interest to research and study the deep and mysterious topics in life, including archaeology, occult studies, mining, uncover hidden meanings, and treasures, etc.
It also indicates that the children of the native experience sudden windfalls which increases their financial condition unexpectedly and hence provide a lot of comforts and conveyances in life.
Devoid Of Happiness
According to BPHS, this combination causes a lack of happiness in life.
This effect is provided also from the natural significations of the houses involved. Namely, the 5th house signifies general luck which is decreased in the 8th house, when the combination is inauspiciously formed.
Moreover, as from the fourth disposition of the 5th lord in 8th, which signifies mental peace and happiness, it is also damaged.
The loss of happiness is caused by unexpected events or losses that are hard to recover from. As from the fourth house signification, it also causes a lack of parental support and comforts in life, which also damages the feeling of satisfaction and contentment in life.
This combination also causes restlessness in mind due to contestant bad thoughts and fears, as the 8th house represents darkness and fears.
This is how this combination causes a lack of satisfaction.
Soul Growth
Alternatively, if the 5th lord is well placed in the 8th house, it indicates better outcomes from this combination.
As a result of a favorable situation of this combination, it initiates the transformational process which motivates the growth of the soul.
Combine the spirituality with deep hidden wisdom and intelligence, it becomes a very strong combination for enlightenment.
It is provided by the fact that the 8th house belongs to the triangle of salvation or Moksha Trikona. Moreover, the 4th house, which is the disposition of the 5th lord in 8th house, also belongs to the same triangle of salvation. Hence, this combination supports the enlightenment of the soul a lot.
However, the transformation is initiated by tragedies and sudden events, which in the case of positive formation of this combination indicates that these issues resolve successfully.
In addition to that, these events that cause suffering also open the soul up to the enlightenment in the process. It is said that in order to see the light, one must go through the darkness.
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Religious truth & wisdom to bless your life
Keep repenting and repeating secretly in mind: "God is enough for me and I bear witness that there is no other worthy of worship than the Almighty Creator alone" for the joy and abundance of God to flow in.
(Surat al-Baqarah 2:163)
Whoever makes the Hereafter (aims for piety & righteousness to attain salvation) his/her goal, Allah (english: God) makes his/her heart rich, and organizes his/her affairs, and the world comes to him/her whether it wants to or not.
(Jami` at-Tirmidhi 2465)
And God is the most merciful and loving. The God Almighty said: By My might and majesty, I will continue to forgive them, as long as they seek My forgiveness.
(Musnad Aḥmad 11237)
And God protects the faithul more than a caring Mother protects her child.
(Sahih al-Bukhari 5999)
Do not perform idolatry, impiety, disrespect for parents. Never endanger lives (saving one life is like saving whole humanity). Do not commit theft, adultery, false witness (disregard all cruel conspiracies towards innocent believers), and do not envy.
(Surat al-An’am 6:151-153)
The Messenger of God [PBUH] used to stress charity in his sermons, and prohibit mutilation. But protect truth and believers at all costs.
(Sunan an-Nasa'i 4047)
There must be no racism, sects, tribes, or gangs amongst you, and take special care of women, and increased rewards get those who educate women especially who suffer in calamities.
(The Last Sermon, Riyad as-Salihin 278)
Holy Prophet [PBUH] raised the status of and established legal rights for women which were never present before, and protected them from harassment, and stressed duty and good treatment to mother. Also, completely prohibited injustice towards girl-children (unjust people used to get rid of them for financial reasons).(Sahih al-Bukhari 3446, Al-Adab Al-Mufrad 5, al-Baqarah 2:228)
All people are practically beleivers if they believe in one God, The Prophets (some of them: Solomon, Moses, Jesus) and The Seal of Prophets (Muhammad) peace be upon them. That is, do not be quick to judge and leave judgment to God except when there is direct threat to righteous beleivers.
All people are practically beleivers if they believe in one God, The Prophets (some of them: Solomon, Moses, Jesus) and The Seal of Prophets (Muhammad) peace be upon them. That is, do not be quick to judge and leave judgment to God except when there is direct threat to righteous beleivers.
I heard Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying while pointing his hands towards the east: The turmoil would appear from this side; verily, the turmoil would appear from this side (he repeated it thrice)(Sahih Muslim 2905e).Muhammad [PBUH] was most akin to Jesus [PBUH], who is coming back, and the best of people will be under protection of Jesus [PBUH].
Some of The Last Words of God via The Last Prophet [PBUH]
(Riyad as-Salihin 1808)
Hidden Senses & Wisdom
As the 5th house signifies intelligence and wisdom, in the 8th house it gives interest into everything hidden and mysterious in life.
Their creativity (5th) is channeled through the hidden miracles of the 8th house.
People with this combination use their wisdom in order to research the topics of the 8th house, such as occult knowledge, forensic science, archeology, and many other topics that are somehow hidden or require deep research in order to understand.
This is a very strong combination to learn and discover deep miracles in life. That is, people with this combination posses the hidden wisdom and strong hidden sense, which gives the ability to feel and understand things that most people can not understand. For example, to see the connections between human behavior and processes in the solar system.
Speculation & Gambling
People with this combination also do well in games of probability or chances as the 5th house belongs to speculation while the 8th house denotes gambling.
However, excessive gambling may initiate sudden losses. In fact, the game of chances mostly causes loses than gains. however, if the 5th lord is extremely well-paced or exalted in the 8t house, it causes a massive amount of wealth gains through speculation.
Wealth is linked to this combination because the 5th lord in 8th house gives direct aspect upon the second house of assets, wealth accumulations, etc.
It is because of their strong hidden sense, which intuitively helps to make correct decisions while taking investment opportunities.
Intensive Emotions & Expression
People with this combination are extremely passionate and intensive emotions which they express also in a very passionate manner.
It is because the 5th house signifies general expression, the 8th signifies passion and intensive energies, while the 4th house, which is the distance between the houses, signifies emotions.
Moreover, the 8th house is naturally signified by Mas, which rules the eighth zodiac sign Scoperio. Furthermore, Scorpio is an emotional water sign.
All of those above-mentioned indicators in Vedic astrology make a person extremely emotional and passionate.
If this combination is negatively formed, it indicates having bad behavior and being very cruel.
Intense Passion
As the 8th house denotes passion (signified by Mars naturally) and the 5th house denotes matters of the heart or feelings, the given combination indicates that people with this combination are passionate in a very intensive way.
If the combination is well placed, it indicates that such natives are fond of sharing intensive romantic pleasures with their partner.
Alternatively, if this combination is negatively formed, it indicates being immoral regarding pleasures and passion. It also causes fanatism towards dirty and sinful pleasures.
Cruel Mentality
This combination produces a cruel and jealous mentality to the native because the 5th house signifies heart and the 4th disposition of the 5th lord in 8th house signifies emotions and mentality.
As the 5th lord in 8th house gives direct aspect upon the 2nd house of speech, it influences the style of speaking accordingly.
As a result, the way of speaking is very offensive, aggressive, and stingy. the intonation of the voice reflects jealousy and resentment. Jealousy also causes ungratefulness which will decrease mental peace and happiness.
If this combination is well placed, it indicates that people with this combination use their aggression in a good light on good deeds. For instance, they might be working as detectives using their suspicious mentality in order to catch and uncover suspects.
Reputation
The combination also reflects that the words and behavior of people with this combination are very hurtful and cause damage to the name, fame, and reputation of the native (5th).
Alternatively, if this combination is well placed, it causes a very good reputation to the native regarding their intelligence and knowledge of the deep and complex topics.
Highly Manipulative
The 8th house signifies deep psychological knowledge besides all the other hidden wisdom while the 5th house signifies intelligence.
Accordingly, this planetary combination makes the native highly skilled in manipulating others.
It depends on the condition of the 5th lord in the 8th house that determines whether they cause hard to others or not.
Accordingly, if the 5th lord is well placed, it indicates that they use their hidden senses in order to guide and assist others.
While the negative placement of 5thlord indicates having the crooked mentality and manipulating others for selfish pursuits.
Past Life
The 5th house is linked to past life deeds. Hence, the positioning of the 5th lord in the 8th house gives a clue about past life.
If the combination is well placed, it indicates sudden luck and gains on account of hard work that is done in the past but which remained uncredited.
In other words, it indicates that someone stole or left the person unrewarded for their work in the past and now the universe recompensates the hard work by the law of karma.
Alternatively, if the combination is ill-formed, it indicates that people with this combination suffer on account of many sinful deeds that were committed in past lives.
It indicates that these natives stole something from others in the past which causes sudden, unexpected, and often unexplained losses in the current lifetime.