Last updated on March 17th, 2023 at 08:01 pm
What does 4th House Lord in 12th House mean?
When the planet that rules over the 4th house of the birth chart is located in the 12th house from the ascendant sign, it means to have this combination of.
As a general effect of this combination, the topics of the 12th house, such as detachment, selflessness, isolation, salvation, long-term investments/aspirations, expenses on self, charities, creativity, dreams, bedroom comforts, visions, the power to manifest visions into reality, foreign land, as well as hidden enemies, decline, losses, isolation in bad ways, obstacles, limits, etc are influenced by the significations of the 4th house, such as peace of mind, mother, comforts, luxuries, conveyances, domestic happiness, property, land, real estate, buildings, general education & learning tendencies, agriculture, private life, etc.
The planetary combination in question gives mixed results by default because it has both favorable and unfavorable connections as per sidereal Vedic astrology.
Because of the fact that the 12th house is one of the houses of difficulties, the favorable significances of the 4th house are frequently under stress and challenges caused by the energies of the 12th house. However, not all obstacles arrive to cause permanent damage. Some come to strengthen their matters after undergoing specific trials related to the 4th and 12th houses in this situation. A dignified 4th house ruler in the 12th house indicates less struggle and good outcomes of this combination because it promotes auspicious outcomes of the 12th house significance.
Secondly, the considered combination is, on the other hand, providing promising results as the 4th ruler in 12th is in the ninth from its own sign/house. Herein the 9th house signifies faith, religion, righteousness, as well as luck and fortune. Hence, this planetary combination is actually very fortunate and can indicate greater blessings especially after enduring periodic struggles.
Most importantly, both the 4th and 12th houses belong to Moksha Trikona which makes them carriers of piety that is crucial for salvation, which is the ultimate goal of each and every soul on Earth. This goal is to reunite with God almighty, the sole creator and owner of this Universe.
Results of 4th House Lord in 12th House
Indifference Conveys Ultimate Peace
Peace of mind is a majorly recognized topic of the 4th house making its ruler helpful in analyzing how it is achieved and maintained during the significant planetary period of the given ruler. The significant periods are transit return, major period, and sub-period of the 4th house ruler in the 12th house.
With the given combination, it is generally derived that peace of mind is gradually in danger of compromise due to various obstacles, such as isolation or even losses, depending on the dignity and nature of the 4th house ruler.
As a result of those environmental factors, the native often finds themselves in mental agony or hopeless situation, which affects mental peace greatly.
However, this exact moment when they feel hopeless or struggle very hard is ultimately deciding the outcome of this situation indicated by this combination in question. This is the moment that either constructs or destruct the native.
Messenger of Allah [PBUH] said: “Whoever does not call upon Allah, He will be angry with them.”
Sunan Ibn Majah 3827
The most important thing during times of restraint (12th) is to remember God who created us, whose might is unlimited, and who is the only one capable of changing our situation. This includes transforming the actual issues into the greatest benefits. Therefore, always remember the words from the beloved Prophet [PBUH] to rely on God in any situation.
The most beautiful fact is that it costs absolutely nothing to pray to God for help and protection. If one does it persistently and sincerely increases faith, then sooner or later the help will be evident. There is nothing impossible for the Creator of This Universe, the owner of worlds, God Almighty.
Hence, such situations are nothing but hidden blessings opening greater opportunities to turn to God for help and increasing awareness of God’s omnipresence. Therefore, when a person finds themselves in difficult situations, which are also indicated by this combination during its planetary periods, and is capable of finding and/or increasing faith in God instead of giving up, then that person is a clear winner over their ongoing struggles.
Understandably, mistakes can be there which does not mean that the chances to attain the support of God are completely lost. It is just that the sooner one reaches out to God for help, the better for the believer.
Speaking of which, the 9th disposition of this combination actually signifies religion, faith, higher wisdom, and philosophy of life making the struggles related to the 4th house (domestic, mental, etc) and the 12th house (loneliness, isolation, restraint, etc) great catalysts for increased faith.
Not to mention the triple amount of Moksha energies included in this combination, which come from the Moksha Trikona (4th, 12th) and from the general significance of the last Vedic house, which is the 12th house of detachment, indifference, liberation, and salvation. All of this increases the opportunity in such periods to increase faith along with indifference manifold.
Indifference is something that is highly related to the 12th house because it can happen when the native is having no fear of loss of anything physical in this world. Therefore, increasing faith enables becoming indifferent to this world which is the key to achieving ultimate happiness when speaking of mental peace in the 12th house environments and struggles.
Being indifferent actually never means that one is bereft of worldly support during this life. It rather means that they are not afraid and hence take up greater opportunities without any fear while having strong faith that there is nothing to lose when God is with them.
We all know that when we detach from something, it naturally comes to us and in a form that is pleasant for the mind, body, and soul. Therefore, indifference and trust in the right outcome for the righteous unlock lots of hidden potential and vitality which enable one to achieve things (by God) that one never imagined.
And when a person is not afraid of worldly affairs and aims much higher, ie aims to attain salvation, then God organizes all affairs for this person and the world comes to them whether it wants or not. Good-natured losses are expenses for something important that increases spiritual purity and strength, which later brings back lasting happiness with healthy material support.
Whoever makes the Hereafter their goal, Allah makes their heart rich, and organizes their affairs, and the world comes to them whether it wants to or not. And whoever makes the world their goal, Allah puts their poverty right before their eyes, and disorganizes their affairs, and the world does not come to them, except what has been decreed for them.
Jami` at-Tirmidhi 2465
If God is with them, all the initial losses/expenses will return in form of blessings greater than they ever imagined or planned. And the greatest blessing herein is the strengthened and purified soul by God, which enables one to persist in full vitality through any obstacle to attain luck, fortune, and ultimate bliss in this life and Hereafter.
Unarguably the greatest example to bring here comes from Taurus Ascendant, whose 4th house ruler Sun is exalted in the 12th house Aries. The exaltation of the Sun, which signifies truth and vitality, indicates tremendous faith in all situations which diminishes most if not all fears. As a result of increased vitality, faith, and truthful behavior, these individuals are highly prosperous. This prosperity reaches beyond this world, while some effects are evident in this world as well. In the shortest words, exaltation is the best formation of this combination because it amplifies all pious traits and yields positive outcomes even from difficulties.
Highly Selfless Mind
The 12th house is equal to the 12th zodiac sign Pisces, which represents selflessness, detachment from worldly matters, and humbleness the most. As the 4th house ruler is located in the 12th house, the mind becomes highly influenced by the characteristics signified by it making these natives highly selfless and sacrificial.
As the 12th ultimately signifies salvation which requires detaching from selfishness, they are often capable of genuinely letting go of personal desires in order to serve higher values. One of the higher values is to selflessly help good people in the name of God, who help to carry those higher or religious values, which improve the community greatly making it a great place for everyone to be.
In fact, the 11th house, which signifies the highest aspirations and fulfillment, is actually the powerhouse of the 12th house. More specifically, the 12th step from the 12th house is the 11th house itself indicating the fact that selflessness, kindness, and piety (required for salvation) actually improve everything and for a large number of people. When greed destruct, then kindness builds greatly which helps to fulfill all the pious high aspirations of many people.
For various ascendant signs, different planet rules over the 4th house, which represents through which topics of life the selflessness is expressed. The carrier of such expressions is faith, righteousness, and piety as indicated by the 9th disposition.
When it comes to the best-case scenario with the exalted Sun, it is possible to derive that selflessness is expressed mostly via leadership and harnessing of vitality for the sake of truth.
In the case of Cancer Ascendant, Venus is dignified in the 12th house indicating a highly selfless and sacrificial approach to relationship matters. Venus in the 12th is exalted according to Lal Kitab indicating a tremendously increased desire for various pious acts.
When analyzing the example of Leo Ascendant, this effect can be explained from a more difficult perspective. Namely, in this situation, the 4th house ruler Mars is debilitated in the 12th house Cancer. The debilitation of the planet of action indicates mental maturity which promotes the tendency to commit unrighteous acts without thinking of consequences. Because of this, the negative effects of the malefic house can come to the fore, such as losses or isolation due to unjust acts. To avoid negative effects from manifesting, it is important to meditate and improve religious wisdom which is the best cure that replaces immature thinking patterns with piety.
Indifferent To Danger
The case with this combination is that the 4th house signifies thinking patterns that influence the decisions directly. Now that the 4th house ruler is in the 12th house, the actions and decisions are often inspired or based on the topics of the 12th house, such as detachment, isolation, selflessness, and indifference.
In BPHS it is directly mentioned that they can be imprudent the synonym of which is indifferent to danger. Rashness, or actions based on half-baked analysis.
Because the 12th house signifies salvation, its energies are not anyhow related to analysis or similar topics. Hence, the thinking patterns of individuals with this combination often do not make sense to very analytical people.
In a positive case scenario, when this combination is formed with dignity, it indicates rashness and a tendency to be indifferent to various dangers because of increased faith.
Messenger of Allah [PBUH] said: Seven (types of) people God will give them His Shade on the Day when there would be no other shade but the Shade of His Throne (i.e., on the Day of Resurrection): And they are (one of which) “a man who gives in charity and conceals it (to such an extent) that the left hand does not know what the right has given”
Riyad as-Salihin 449
A beautiful religious fact that I discovered over the course of time is that pious acts with good intentions, such as charities, must be done without excessive worry or analysis. In other words, when we do something good, such as charity, we must be as if we do not know what we are doing. That is one auspicious example of the formation of headstrong rashness, in which the native detaches from thinking or analyzing the outcome and actually trusts God in delivering the right outcome for them and others.
If they will get blessings and multiple returns, they deserve it. If they get less, they are content with it knowing that God knows the purpose of that. After all, when it comes to charity, it is important to do it for the sake of God, piety, and righteousness without expecting anything in return except God’s protection and support.
What is certain is that with persistent acts and good selfless intentions, they are backed in all ways and will not experience any lack or loss. Any worldly issues that may arise from their indifference, are temporary and will yield even greater returns than expenses.
Accordingly, a half-baked analytical process, rashness, and indifference can be a good thing if it is applied in correct environments, where selflessness is required. The environment of the 12th house which is signified by the 12th zodiac sign Pisces, which represents a selfless and unconditionally caring character, is well suited for such indifferent thinking which rushes to do good often without even thinking about own issues first. In fact, many a time they knowingly cause personal sacrifices (12th) in order to do what they must do according to their situation.
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Religious truth & wisdom to bless your life
Keep repenting and repeating secretly in mind: "God is enough for me and I bear witness that there is no other worthy of worship than the Almighty Creator alone" for the joy and abundance of God to flow in.
(Surat al-Baqarah 2:163)
Whoever makes the Hereafter (aims for piety & righteousness to attain salvation) his/her goal, Allah (english: God) makes his/her heart rich, and organizes his/her affairs, and the world comes to him/her whether it wants to or not.
(Jami` at-Tirmidhi 2465)
And God is the most merciful and loving. The God Almighty said: By My might and majesty, I will continue to forgive them, as long as they seek My forgiveness.
(Musnad Aḥmad 11237)
And God protects the faithul more than a caring Mother protects her child.
(Sahih al-Bukhari 5999)
Do not perform idolatry, impiety, disrespect for parents. Never endanger lives (saving one life is like saving whole humanity). Do not commit theft, adultery, false witness (disregard all cruel conspiracies towards innocent believers), and do not envy.
(Surat al-An’am 6:151-153)
The Messenger of God [PBUH] used to stress charity in his sermons, and prohibit mutilation. But protect truth and believers at all costs.
(Sunan an-Nasa'i 4047)
There must be no racism, sects, tribes, or gangs amongst you, and take special care of women, and increased rewards get those who educate women especially who suffer in calamities.
(The Last Sermon, Riyad as-Salihin 278)
Holy Prophet [PBUH] raised the status of and established legal rights for women which were never present before, and protected them from harassment, and stressed duty and good treatment to mother. Also, completely prohibited injustice towards girl-children (unjust people used to get rid of them for financial reasons).(Sahih al-Bukhari 3446, Al-Adab Al-Mufrad 5, al-Baqarah 2:228)
All people are practically beleivers if they believe in one God, The Prophets (some of them: Solomon, Moses, Jesus) and The Seal of Prophets (Muhammad) peace be upon them. That is, do not be quick to judge and leave judgment to God except when there is direct threat to righteous beleivers.Muhammad [PBUH] was most akin to Jesus [PBUH], who is coming back, and the best of people will be under protection of Jesus [PBUH].
Some of The Last Words of God via The Last Prophet [PBUH]
(Riyad as-Salihin 1808)
What matters the most is the intention behind any action and the dignity (i.e not hiding behind the good to hide something bad) of the native. And always remember God is the best of providers and capable of anything. We as humans are not capable of achieving even 0.0000001% of what God is capable of, so there is no use in endlessly rushing towards selfish goals, but also offer some balance and become selfless for the sake of God and allow God to organize our affairs.
When coming back to the best example of the exalted Sun, it is self-explanatory that a strong planet of mentality in the 1st zodiac sign Aries (mentality) does not actually indicate being half-baked. In reality, they are full of vitality, courage, and enthusiasm which often makes them look so initiative to the extent that it is strange for average people. Strong like horse and lion, gleaming like thunder, Aries Sun natives are very intelligent but willing to perform heroic acts, overcome personal comfort zone, and perform pious acts in tremendous measures without fearing any loss.
Higher Values Convey True Comfort
According to BPHS people with this combination are lacking domestic happiness and comforts in life.
As the 4th house governs various comforts, luxuries, and also domestic happiness, the placement of the planet that governs the given house in the 12th domain generally indicates various obstacles which may hinder the enjoyment of the 4th house matters.
The exact reason for the lack of emotional contentment regarding comfort are depending on the condition of the planet that rules over the 4th house while being in the 12th house. If the combination is well-formed in favorable sign, it indicates that despite obstacles it is easy to overcome material restraints and successfully manifest all the comforts one desire and wish for which also brings mental peace and satisfaction.
In best-case scenarios, the lack of enjoyment is of good nature due to personal preferences rather than difficult circumstances. More specifically, a dignified 4th house ruler in the 12th house indicates that their mental contentment is shifted from worldly matters to more intangible values because they are highly concerned about topics of piety, righteousness, and salvation (9th disposition landing in the 12th house). As a result, they always lack contentment even if they achieve a great deal of material success. I can say this from personal experience.
It equally means that such natives are not attached to their comforts and luxuries which ironically grants more and more access to a comfortable lifestyle according to the law of attraction.
More specifically, we attract what we detach ourselves from. It is proven many times in the history of humanity via The Prophets of God, peace be upon them, that when a person trusts God and aims beyond this world, i.e to attain salvation, then God takes care of most if not all worldly issues. Note that personal input and action are still necessary for good direction. It is always action combined with faith (Karma-Dharma) that is truly effective. In this case, these natives attract sufficient provision in form of comforts and conveyances because of their tremendously increased faith, selfless, and detached nature.
In most examples of various Ascendant signs, the native finds true peace from higher values related to the significance of a specific planet. In the case of the exalted Sun, the higher values come from religious knowledge which inspires them to be highly dutiful. Delivering results in piety and truthfulness is what brings them peace, rather than personal comfort. In fact, they fear their comfort zone more than losing the opportunity to serve the truth.
In the case of Cancer Ascendant, the 4th house ruler Venus is dignified in the 12th house (like exalted) which indicates that these natives will always choose higher values over personal comforts. Yet, they get sufficient comforts to sustain themselves as long as their minds are carried by higher and pious values. I remember being young when wished for something, I was always tested till the last moment on how would I react to restrictions. My acceptance and detachment from my desires when feeling I can not get them actually brought me results greater than I imagined.
In all positive cases, the real comfort is found in the higher value rather than a material resource. For them, worldly matters are resources that help to convey higher values. Because of such pious thinking patterns, they perform so much good without themselves even noticing it. As a result, they attract tremendous blessings, luck, and fortune (9th disposition).
Alternatively, if the given combination is ill-formed or debilitated in the 12th house, it indicates a lack of mental peace, comforts, and luxurious articles in life due to immaturity, selfishness, and possibly untamed greed. It is because there are various obstacles and blockages which hinder the process of fulfilling dreams about a comfortable life, such as bad financial conditions, expenses on unavoidable things, etc.
Comforts & Foreign Land
The 12th house also signifies foreign lands which are relatively far from the birthplace. The combination, therefore, indicates that one may be especially eager to attain luxurious comforts, conveyances, and properties in foreign lands if this combination is especially well-formed in favorable sign and aspected by an auspicious planet.
It is possible that these natives may find hindrances in their birthplace and decide to find the comfort of home and various comforts and luxuries in foreign places.
It is also highly possible that some obstacles and situations that arise during the main or sub-periods of this combination cause them to wander away from their birthplace to find a peaceful environment to concentrate on spiritual evolution and religion.
After all, the 4th lord in the 12th is in the 9th from its own sign. Whereas the 9th house signifies luck and fortune. Hence, this combination proves to be fortunate regarding comforts and luxuries abroad, if not in the birthplace.
Alternatively, as the 12th house signifies expense on long-term investments, it indicates profits from the 4th house significances in foreign lands, such as foreign real estate investing or any import-export activity related to comforts. As the 12th house indicates intangible values, they can earn fortune even when not effectively related to foreign lands. This fortune is often spent on spiritually healthy activities and other pious deeds due to their increased indifference to this world.
Restless Mind
As the 4th house of peace of mind is positioned in the 12th house of difficulties, the considered combination indicates restlessness in the mind due to constant worries.
In other words, this combination indicates that people with this combination, even though are fortunate and blessed with various conveyances, are constantly worried about them. These conveyances cause constant worries in the mind which also increases mental stress and reduces peace of mind regarding worldly comforts.
As a result, these natives must drain more energy and resources in order to maintain and take care of their belongings.
In some cases, it is possible that the mental stress is mostly caused by the fact that owning property or expensive assets increases expenses a lot (12th house significance). It is advised for every person not to overwhelm the mind with worldly worries and always allow for good causes. According to religious wisdom, being generous, i.e not being too extravagant or too restrictive is advised. One must not take what is forbidden or excessively ineffectively useless, but not also restrict the good things that God made lawful. That is because as explained earlier, performing pious deeds is the only thing that brings true emotional comfort, which is backed by God. Every person is destined to face expenses, so one might as well spend on good causes so there are some good spiritual effects from them.
Daydreamers
Another matter that BPHS mentions is that people with this combination are indolent. This is probably due to the worries and periodic hindrances they encounter.
Even this effect can have different outcomes. In the best case scenario, it is indicated that their focus in the mind is directed so much towards intangible values that they would prefer to be rather passive in their work life or choose something simple which enables them to keep more focus on higher values.
In best-case scenarios, they are eventually capable of finding the golden balance between worldly and religious matters because of their increased religious wisdom. The latter is signified by the 9th disposition, which is represented by the 9th zodiac sign Sagittarius, which is governed by Jupiter, which signifies faith, religion, righteousness, as well as luck and fortune. Therefore, it is completely possible to be spiritually evolved and effective in worldly life as well as long as they put in lots of effort to maintain the straight or righteous path.
The inactiveness and laziness are caused because the 12th house which signifies dreams influences the mindset that way, which is signified by the 4th house. In other words, native with this combination is often caught in daydreaming which reduces the effectiveness of action, at times.
They are caught so much in their dreams that they often unknowingly reduce self-made actions in order to make these dreams a reality. It also indicates that they love to sleep a lot.
Many natives with this combination daydream a lot because they simply wish to escape reality and create their own. When this trait is manifested positively, it can be a great combination for a financially free and thus, comfortable lifestyle. This is achievable when the mind is not directed towards dreaming of world matters, but higher values.
The right environment for dreaming about high aspirations is where they cannot be touched, i.e in the 12th house environment. By harnessing actions and dreams in their right places with the golden balance, it is possible to act efficiently yet attain tremendous intangible values simultaneously. The latter will definitely boost the former if intentions are pure.
Power To Manifest Dreams
However, if a planet is extraordinarily auspiciously positioned n the 12th house, it indicates that these dreams and visions are the fuel and power for their action. Specifically, the more they dream, the more they visualize and act toward their dreams.
Moreover, the 12th house is the powerhouse of the 11th house through the Bhavat Bhavam connection. Namely, the 11th house from the eleventh house is the 12th house which means that dreams (intangible energies) are the catalysts for fulfilling aspirations and wishes, which are manifested using the power to dream and visualize.
Accordingly, the thinking patterns of such natives are well capable of visualizing their goals and aspirations which helps them to act more and be motivated enough to manifest these dreams into reality.
Alternatively, the combination is highly favorable for getting divine guidance from spiritual realms (while awake) and dreams (while sleeping) about lifepath and steps to make.
It also indicates that the mind (4th) is most of the time active during sleep time which causes rich and vivid dreams that contain a lot of important information for the native.
After all, all the ideas that spark in our minds are completely intangible and come from planes we can not fully comprehend. The ideas are the seeds of action that will give great fruits of success if they are righteously and persistently watered.
Some Vices
The same classical source also mentions that natives with this combination have vices. As the 12th house is related to sensuality and bedroom activities, the vices are often related to sensual desires.
The vices should be addressed and controlled efficiently in order to avoid becoming a prisoner (12th) of bad habits.
Now, the outcomes of these vices are largely dependent on the condition of the 4th lord in the 12th house.
Accordingly, if the combination is well-formed in an auspicious sign for the planet, it means that vices can be held under control and thus, such vices cause no huge harm or major losses to the natives with this combination during significant planetary periods.
Other than that, the exact nature of vice can be also explained via the significance of the specific planet according to Ascendant Sign. The above-mentioned is mostly based on Venus as the 4th house ruler in the 12th house indicating an increased desire for romance, beauty, and harmony. Good thing is that maturity, in this case, inspires one to seek lawful pleasure, but the feeling of not getting enough can be dangerous, if not tamed. Increasing wisdom always helps to organize thoughts and desires to avoid things getting out of control.
Home Alone
This is also a combination of a self-made person as this combination makes people with this combination lack parental guidance, warmth, and affection.
Namely, as the 4th house also signifies parents, its lord in the 12th house shows being away from them often.
Such natives can be isolated from their parents for various reasons, especially during the significant periods of the given combination. One of the reasons might be that parents are away because of working abroad or for other traveling purposes.
As a result, these natives must develop early independence to figure out how to grow and evolve in this life. On a positive note, these individuals have more time and opportunity to turn introspective which is a catalyst for soul evolvement and inner growth.
This isolation, in fact, makes them turn inward and discover the spiritual side of their mind early in life. For best results, dignity must be present because without it one may develop bad ideas whereas there is no one to correct them during isolation which may cause inauspicious outcomes.
Spiritual Mother
The 4th house represents the mother and the given house ruler in the 12th house indicates that she is very spiritual and religiously devoted. She has a peaceful mindset but also has some vices depending on the planet which rules over the 4th house.
This combination also shows that the mother of these natives influences their life paths in a way that brings them closer to spiritual topics, religion, and ultimately salvation (may God allow).
Alternatively, the activation of this combination via significant periods can indicate isolation from the mother for different reasons depending on the overall chart. The distance can ironically strengthen the intangible connection which is priceless as it inspires unconditional love and care.
Personal Experience
I, Martin, the author of this article have experienced 20 years of the planetary period of the 4th house ruler in the 12th house. Hence, it is much easier for me to explain the experiences and find correlations with the significance of this combination.
Even though this combination seems to be very difficult and negative, it was a very important period that paved the way for what I am doing now on this site.
Namely, during this period I became isolated from almost everything because of my own decisions. This is likely because my 4th lord in 12th is a natural benefit planet Venus, which allowed the manifestation of these difficulties in a relatively soft way.
Speaking of which, soon when this period started (which I did not know back then obviously which I discovered as I learned Jyotish later in life), I decided not to go to kindergarten anymore.
I just refused to dress up and go where I do not feel mental contentment and fulfillment. This effect is caused by the energies of the 12th house which made my mind detached from daily life and community (kindergarten).
So my parents approved my longing to stay at home, even if it means alone most of the time. Now that I became isolated, I had very little parental attention or social interaction.
I also had very few luxuries and remained home alone for a very long time during my childhood. But I had everything I needed as Venus is dignified and strong in the sign of a great friend.
What I also had, was lots of books that came to me of circumstances. Namely, my brother (who also with my Mother taught me religion) brought many books from which I chose historical and astronomical topics. So this is how my journey to astronomy/logy started and evolved step by step throughout the years.
The 4th house lord in the 12th house is 9 steps away. Herein the 9th signifies righteousness, spirituality, and religion which became my most important topics of interest during the period (Mahadasha) of the 4th house lord.
This planetary period prompted me to detach from worldly life as much as possible in order to shift my focus on higher wisdom, spirituality, and salvation. This happened in a very sweet way as a natural benefit planet Venus was involved and in the sign of a great friend.
Recently I started running the period of Sun as the 2nd house lord in the 11th house which generally signifies sharing the light and wisdom I attained earlier with a large group of people or community. This happens via large network systems which are also signified by the 11th house.
I also always had a high aspiration to create something that can be effective in both worldly life and rewarding on spiritual levels. As an altruistic person, I longed for doing something which will benefit other people as I always desired to leave a positive footprint with everything I do.
I wanted to be independent yet did not have much interest in the business world as selling something without higher value would make me daydream and ineffective eventually. At first, I planned to do this site as a non-profit and develop a material store separately. However, as time passed I had to put in more energy and focus on it so I found this platform to be a balance enabling me to grow independence, harness the info to benefit the people, and leave a positive effect. This aspiration is likely caused by the exchange between my 11th and 12th house rulers (11th in 12th and 12th in 11th). This means that the highest aspirations are related to salvation and topics of piety influence the highest aspirations which also influence the community actively.
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same rules apply in navamsa?
They originally apply for D1 only but they can be helpful in analyzing various divisional charts as well.
Very true. All the above mentioned results held true in my case. I am delighted to seek it. Thanks a lot.
I’m doing this for western whole sign houses and this is extremely accurate in my case. Everything said here is true for me. I have venus in gemini conjunct ketu in the 12th with a trine to jupiter so I think I have decent dignity lol 😀 Looks like my best bet is to live abroad which has always been my dream and invest in real estate. Shockingly accurate. Plus in vedic I have venus in taurus in 12th so that’s even more dignity 🙂
Thanks for this information, it’s helping me a lot.
Best description of this placement I’ve ever read! I feel like most focus on “a life of loses” but when you lose something you become able find something else, something hopefully better! I have this in my birthchart & transiting transiting over it rn!
Thank you for this article!
Hello
Thank you so much for your kind words! I can totally understand what you are saying as I recently passed the 20-year period of my 4th lord in the 12th house. So many initiator factors for detachment for the sake of gaining something that carries higher values. So much isolation but for a very great cause and gain of wisdom that helps in salvation.
Sir, Namaskarams. After reading analysis of your 4th lord in 12th house. The same combination my horoscope shows. Please arrange to analyse my Rahu period which will come after Mars, which is presently running. Birth details 22-07-1952 at 13-30 Hrs. born at Hyderabad, Telangana State, INDIA.