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What does the 2nd House Lord in 8th House mean?
When the planet which rules over the second natal zodiac sign is positioned in the 8th house from the ascendant, it means to have the 2nd lord in the 8th house.
The general effect of this combination is that the themes of the second astrological house are connected to the eighth house.
As a general effect of this combination, the significations of the 2nd house, such as accumulated wealth, assets, values, self-worth, family values & traditions, mental resources & talents, speech, vision, etc are influenced by the topics of the 8th house, such as longevity, hidden matters, hidden sense, occult knowledge, transformation, unearned wealth, as well as, sorrow, delay, instructions, sudden events causing losses, etc.
Because of the fact that the 8th house is one of the malefic houses named Dusthana Bhava in Vedic, this combination yields various inauspicious results and difficulties.
On the other hand, when the 2nd house ruler is in 8th, it is in the 7th place from its own sign. Herein the 7th disposition represents the 7th Vedic house which is one of the most auspicious quadrant houses named Kendra Bhava in Vedic. Therefore, this combination can also hide many auspicious results.
The 2nd house belongs to Artha Trikona (wealth triangle), the 7th house belongs to Kama Trikona (triangle of desires), and the 8th house belongs to Moksha Trikona (salvation house). It creates a formula that sounds something like “salvation is true wealth and hidden desire”.
Results of 2nd House Lord in 8th House
Wealth One Step Away
The major globally recognized theme of the 2nd house is wealth which is correct because it is named Dhana Bhava in Vedic. When translating this Sanskrit word, it literally means wealth.
To get an understanding of the general flow of financial matters, it is reasonable to analyze the positioning of the 2nd house ruler in various houses. It also helps to determine the general approach toward assets, wealth, and valuables.
As the 8th house is mainly about unexpected events, the positioning of the 2nd house ruler in it indicates various uncertainties about wealth matters.
This can be in both positive and negative intonation. The first situation shows positive changes in financial condition while the negative situation indicates the opposite.
Even when final outcomes are positive, the period in between can be very troublesome as many lessons must be learned before being blessed with sudden wealth by the almighty God, the sole owner of the whole creation.
Speaking of which, unexpected difficulties are catalysts for various maturation processes and are necessary for attaining valuable lessons that actually make one stronger and wiser in the long run.
The only real things in life is the unexpected things. Everything else is just an illusion.
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After all, the 8th house belongs to Moksha Trikona which conceals important processes necessary for soul growth. These processes are important because paving the way towards acquiring the true goal of every soul, which is to earn the love of God Almighty and attain salvation.
The 8th house is so vast and powerful because it signifies things that are unseen, hidden, or just beneath the surface. Because of that fact, this house is known as dark and frightening. Yet, fear is important to overcome the deepest insecurities.
Speaking of which, individuals with this combination are prompted to face their deepest fears often which is the catalyst for becoming highly intelligent, knowledgeable, and courageous.
Interestingly, courage is an integral part of the 8th house because of the fact that the 8th place from it is the 3rd house of valor, effort, and intelligence.
In other words, it means that one must face fears, take risks, and become transformed in order to gain intellect and courage to pursue true desires successfully. Taking risks and diving into the unknown also trains one to become highly faithful. When one is ready to risk everything, and willing to lose everything material, then one’s faith in God is unlimited.
Accordingly, this combination teaches that one must prioritize the growth of the soul and its transformation before receiving unexpected material blessings.
The fact that the 2nd house ruler is exactly opposite to its own sign (7th disposition) reflects being completely out of the comfort zone. Ironically, this is the exact place where growth and maturation intensify.
Life always begins with one step outside of your comfort zone.
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Astrologically, a planet in 7th from its own sign is called exiled because of being in the opposite environment. In mundane life, if a person exiles or wanders far away, it forces them to become stronger and attain lots of skills to prosper in these new strange environments.
Hence, this combination reflects both highly uncomfortable feelings along with unexpected events that one must cope with. Truly, it shapes the natives and tempers their souls in unimaginable ways.
Sometimes it is good to be in uncomfortable situations because it is in finding our way out of such difficulties that we learn valuable lessons.
Idowu Koyenikan
After having described the effect of the 8th house in this combination, many might develop uncertainties in mind. One can take heart as there is no need as BPHS states that individuals with this combination are blessed with abundant wealth by the almighty God.
However, it is still important to keep in mind that individuals with this combination are often found in situations where they have to take the leap of faith into transformative situations because abundance is one step away. And the most important integral herein is to become spiritually transformed into a more pure version.
One of the best formations of this combination occurs via Taurus Ascendant, whose 2nd house ruler Mercury is in neutral dignity in the 8th house Sagittarius.
The main reason for that is hidden behind their adaptability which promotes valor. Namely, Mercury signifies traits that are necessary in order to tackle issues of difficult complexity making them efficient in various unexpected situations where uncomfortable matters are present.
They are great at harnessing intellectual capabilities in order to take the most of difficulties allowing them to grow efficiently without resisting change that is crucially needed. The steps towards wavering circumstances eventually allow them to attain the traits of fiery Sagittarius, making them spiritually wise, intelligent, and righteous.
When it comes to Leo Ascendant natives, the 2nd house ruler Mercury falls in the 8th house Pisces. This basically shows the loss of wealth because of tricky unethical deeds for selfish gains.
What pushes them to do that is their ignorance or lack of righteous knowledge leaving them without an understanding of the outcomes of unethical deeds. To avoid the bad chain of events from emerging, one must abandon unethical tricks as soon as possible.
One may be clever enough to hide hidden tricks from people, but one must always know that God sees and knows everything and sends blessings or destruction accordingly.
Indeed, GOD never wrongs the people; it is the people who wrong their own souls.
Surat Yunus [10:44]
True, God, our creator never wants us to suffer but He wants us to learn and understand what is wrong. Hence, God sends us some burdens we are able to carry according to our personal capabilities. Blessed are those who see hidden blessings from those difficulties for these will urge them to improve and become closer to God Almighty.
When it comes to the debilitated planet in the 8th house, sudden destruction is likely to happen. However, as mentioned before, these sudden negative events can be avoided with increased religious discipline and detaching from selfish values. After this happens, things start to improve at a rapid pace and sudden blessings start to flow in.
Blessed With Plenty
In best-case scenarios, this combination indicates being blessed with plenty of property and wealth. It is important to bear in mind that Vedic texts show indications from stars but all those are part of the creation of the almighty God. Hence, the blessings come directly from the Creator and stars indicate when that hour has arrived for abundance to flow in. Truly, God is the best of providers.
Speaking of which, classical text from BPHS state that this combination blesses abundant wealth, especially in the form of landed property.
This is likely due to the fact that the 7th disposition is a beneficial quadrant named Kendra Bhava in Vedic which signifies all the support in form of comforts.
One should always remain humble when prosperity is attained. Instead of becoming selfish, one must become humble and share a suitable portion of blessings with others as well. That is because everything we hold belongs to God.
By being selfless, we show loyalty and prove the belief that God owns everything even if on Earth the assets are linked to a name. Selflessness also proves maturity or readiness to take responsibility for holding a specific amount of assets and apply them righteously.
Think as if more abundance indicates (like timepiece) being blessed with (by God) increased opportunities to become more humble, charitable, and selfless in life. This kind of mentality will amplify blessings and increase ultimate bliss in the soul because such actions help earn love from God as an ultimate reward.
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Religious truth & wisdom to bless your life
Keep repenting and repeating secretly in mind: "God is enough for me and I bear witness that there is no other worthy of worship than the Almighty Creator alone" for the joy and abundance of God to flow in.
(Surat al-Baqarah 2:163)
Whoever makes the Hereafter (aims for piety & righteousness to attain salvation) his/her goal, Allah (english: God) makes his/her heart rich, and organizes his/her affairs, and the world comes to him/her whether it wants to or not.
(Jami` at-Tirmidhi 2465)
And God is the most merciful and loving. The God Almighty said: By My might and majesty, I will continue to forgive them, as long as they seek My forgiveness.
(Musnad Aḥmad 11237)
And God protects the faithul more than a caring Mother protects her child.
(Sahih al-Bukhari 5999)
Do not perform idolatry, impiety, disrespect for parents. Never endanger lives (saving one life is like saving whole humanity). Do not commit theft, adultery, false witness (disregard all cruel conspiracies towards innocent believers), and do not envy.
(Surat al-An’am 6:151-153)
The Messenger of God [PBUH] used to stress charity in his sermons, and prohibit mutilation. But protect truth and believers at all costs.
(Sunan an-Nasa'i 4047)
There must be no racism, sects, tribes, or gangs amongst you, and take special care of women, and increased rewards get those who educate women especially who suffer in calamities.
(The Last Sermon, Riyad as-Salihin 278)
Holy Prophet [PBUH] raised the status of and established legal rights for women which were never present before, and protected them from harassment, and stressed duty and good treatment to mother. Also, completely prohibited injustice towards girl-children (unjust people used to get rid of them for financial reasons).(Sahih al-Bukhari 3446, Al-Adab Al-Mufrad 5, al-Baqarah 2:228)
All people are practically beleivers if they believe in one God, The Prophets (some of them: Solomon, Moses, Jesus) and The Seal of Prophets (Muhammad) peace be upon them. That is, do not be quick to judge and leave judgment to God except when there is direct threat to righteous beleivers.
All people are practically beleivers if they believe in one God, The Prophets (some of them: Solomon, Moses, Jesus) and The Seal of Prophets (Muhammad) peace be upon them. That is, do not be quick to judge and leave judgment to God except when there is direct threat to righteous beleivers.
I heard Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying while pointing his hands towards the east: The turmoil would appear from this side; verily, the turmoil would appear from this side (he repeated it thrice)(Sahih Muslim 2905e).Muhammad [PBUH] was most akin to Jesus [PBUH], who is coming back, and the best of people will be under protection of Jesus [PBUH].
Some of The Last Words of God via The Last Prophet [PBUH]
(Riyad as-Salihin 1808)
One great example to illustrate this effect comes from Scorpio Ascendant natives, whose 2nd house ruler Jupiter is in 8th house Gemini. According to the classics, Gemini Jupiter individuals are blessed with tremendous wealth due to their intellect and scholarly works. They are well-behaved and express themselves with refined politeness. Religious tendencies help them to use their blessings in a correct manner.
Avoid Excessive Materialistic Desires
In worse scenarios, the given combination shows too much tendency for materialism caused by increased desires.
Desires can become real enemies to one’s soul if left uncontrolled. There are uncountable consequences caused by untamed desires, the major of which is too much concentration on temporary illusions rather than focusing more on salvation.
Most people would say that what they see with their eyes is real, but actually, this is not the case. That is because the human eye can only see a tiny percentage of wavelengths while most of the energies remain unseen. God Almighty knows best.
So speaking of which, focusing too much on desires can lead to attachment to the pleasures of eyes and senses.
When this happens and the spiritual evolution of the soul becomes compromised because of increased desires for materialism, one can become in danger of making many wrong decisions leading to sudden disasters eventually.
The best way to tackle this hidden enemy is to become religiously more knowledgeable, especially about the fact that what we see is nothing but trial and temporary while the afterlife is eternal.
So always bear in mind investing more in the life hereafter by keeping the focus on higher values. This does not mean that the temporary journey can not be enjoyable. In fact, all blessings come from God almighty and when one deserves it, one gets the support of comfort in this life as well.
In fact, one can be prosperous both spiritually and materialistically if only one manages to keep a golden balance and avoid causing degradation of soul and purity just because of satisfying temporary (often immoral) desires.
According to the logic of Vedic, the positive dignity of the 2nd house ruler in the 8th house indicates easy management of desires and a natural urge to use gained resources righteously and also involve in pious movements.
According to the significance of the 8th house, these natives can be especially competent (because of their own experiences) by helping people who go through tremendous trials and disasters. After all, helping others is helping oneself.
God oversees everything and blesses us just like we help others. The only difference is that God is almighty, merciful, and kind in an unlimited manner and gives us many times more for every sincere good deed.
This effect matters the most for Pisces Ascendant natives, whose 2nd house ruler Mars is in Libra on the 8th house. According to the classics, Libra Mars shows a tendency to become involved in unethical partnerships and business which leads to sudden losses. The latter of which can be avoided by correcting the path as soon as possible while repenting for unethical deeds that were already performed.
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According to BPHS, this combination indicates dissatisfaction from the spouse. This topic is involved because the 7th disposition signifies life partner as well as carnal desires.
Now that the 2nd house ruler is in 8th with 7th disposition, there are many trials in marital life indicated. It is self-explanatory that going through difficult phases during the planetary period (Mahadasha) of the 2nd house ruler also directly affects family life and the well-being of the spouse. This is with the best case scenario when the positioning of 2nd house ruler refers to auspicious outcomes.
From a more negative perspective, dissatisfaction comes from increased desires which are hard to tame and thus lead to unethical pursuits regarding matters of romance.
For the most part, this combination reflects challenges to overcome unethical sensual tendencies in order to replenish the harmony of matrimony.
This challenge is especially emphasized for Aries Ascendant natives whose 2nd house ruler Venus is in 8th house Scorpio yielding amplified sensual desires to a great extent. That is because the 8th house represents sensual contact, the 7th amplifies carnal desires, while Venus is the planet that signifies love and fleshly beauty.
Such individuals must guard themselves against developing a desire for something that does not belong to them. Otherwise, immense destruction awaits on all levels. A similar effect applies to all other Ascendant signs (Pisces, Virgo, Libra) whose 2nd house ruler is either Mars or Venus in opposite signs.
Highly Transformational Events
The sudden events, be they gains or losses, one thing is for sure. They contribute to the inner transformation, which is what the 8th house is all about. The 8th house in Vedic astrology belongs to Moksha Trikona or the triangle of salvation.
With the second lord in this house, the wealth and assets are much related to how one reaches the transformational point in life. May God Almighty make this process easy. It all depends on how quickly one learns the lesson about material and intangible values.
In a positive example, when the combination is formed by a well-placed planet, it indicates that these natives become more spiritually aware after experiencing abundant gains. In other words, more gains equal more humbleness for them because their maturity and dignified values make them act responsibly with resources trusted to them by our Creator.
They feel largely blessed by God and this connects them more to spiritual realms. Additionally, with a positive placement of the second ruler in the eighth astrological house, they spend and invest their wealth wisely (morally) leading to exponential growth both spiritually and materialistically. Note that only a few can manage things so purely that these both will grow massively.
When analyzing Gemini Ascendant, the 2nd house ruler Moon is in Capricorn in the 8th house which shows that difficult events initiate transformation that changes the thinking patterns positively. After the difficult maturation process, they become highly inclined towards seeking and spreading the truth. they are also very serious and dutiful most of the time because of difficult experiences and mature thinking patterns.
Alternatively, in the case of the negative form of the considered planetary combination, one will experience transformation by sudden accidents and losses which leads them away from materialism, helps to detach that way, and also leads to spiritual awareness.
Such a native is overly materialistic and the only way to make him awake is to experience events that help to detach the mind from excessive materialistic desires. Once they learn to be responsible with wealth, use it on pious deeds, and obtain it righteously, they will regain financial stability.
This example applies to Sagittarius Ascendant natives especially well because the 2nd house ruler Saturn is undignified in 8th house Cancer. According to classical sources, this indicates financial troubles first part of life and sudden improvement later, after achieving the pivotal point of deep transformation.
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