Last updated on March 15th, 2020 at 10:11 pm
What does 7th House Lord in 8th House mean?
When the planet that rules over the 7th house of the natal birth chart is located in the 8th house from the ascendant sign, it means to have this planetary combination.
As a general effect of this combination, the matters of the 8th house, such as sudden changes, sudden events, inner transformation, darkness, deepness, everything hidden, unknown, hidden senses, hidden wisdom, occult knowledge, as well as unexpected gains, hidden miracles of life, the law of karma, etc are influenced by the significances of the 7th house, such as marriage, relationships, spouse, partnerships, joint ventures, business, trading, entrepreneurship, marketplaces, balance, peace, harmony, equity, the public image of self, etc.
The given combination is considered inauspicious by default as the 8th house is one of the malefic houses which is called Dusthana Bhava as per sidereal Vedic astrology. This causes malefic effects to the 7th house significances.
However, the condition of the 7th ruler is very important to consider. That is to say, the dignity of the 7th ruler plays a major role in determining the outcomes of the 8th house significances. To be specific, if the given combination is well-formed, it extracts positive outcomes of this malefic house, such as sudden improvements, gains, etc through 7th house matters.
On the other hand, the 7th house lord in the 8th house is in 2nd from own sign which makes this combination especially gainful and valuable, provided that the 7th ruler is in good dignity. It is because the 2nd denotes wealth, accumulated assets, family values, self-worth, etc.
In addition to that, as the 7th house belongs to the triangle of desires or Kama Trikona while the 8th belongs to the triangle of salvation or Moksha Trikona, it indicates that the natives and their spouses have inherent desire to attain salvation.
It is also important to note that both the 7th and 2nd (disposition house) belong to damage inflicting house group that is called Maraka Bhava in Vedic astrology. Hence, it is very important that this combination is well-formed in the 8th house to avoid great damage to the significances of both houses. All the above mentioned makes this combination one of the most difficult, intensive, and dangerous.
Results of 7th House Lord in 8th House
Transformational Marriage
This combination indicates a married life that is very intense full of twists and turns.
The reason for this effect can be explained by the general significances of the houses involved. Namely, the 7th house rules marriage and relationships while the 8th house carries a lot of uncertainty, sudden events, and darkness.
As a result, the connection between these houses indicates that the life partnership activates a lot of sudden events that have a very deeply transformational effect on the native and spouse.
The sudden events are sparked by various instances in the relationship. Some of which is the general behavior of the native with the spouse.
To be specific, there is a lot of uncertainty in the character of the native which causes damage to harmony and peace in the relationship because their spouse is forced to always live in unknowingness what would happen next.
The native is also excessively passionate which leaves their spouse into fear of becoming deceived in the end. Hence, their spouse becomes very controlling and aggressive at times.
This, in turn, causes a whole lot of friction and sudden outbursts of emotions from the life partner of the native.
The outcomes from the given effect are dependent on the dignity of the 7th ruler in the 8th house. If it is well placed, it indicates that these sudden events initiate positive transformational processes for both the natives and their life partners.
As a result, they are able to transform each other into better versions of themselves. They often meet during difficult periods and harsh conditions, where they have no other but each other.
From my practical experience, I have seen that the native who has strong the house with 7th lord in it is able to transform their partners and guide them towards betterness by motivating and assisting each way possible. As a result, the partner of the native gains inner strength quits all bad habits and becomes positively transformed.
It is also mentioned in ancient scripture BPHS that these natives are inclined towards serving or assisting their partners or members of the opposite gender.
So if this combination is well-formed, it creates a person who is perfectly devoted to the relationship or marriage and goes all-in with all their mind and heart.
On the contrary, if the given combination is ill-placed, the malefic outcomes of the difficult 8th house are increased drastically. As a result, there is a complete loss of peace and harmony in the married life of the native which causes lots of trouble, losses, and sudden disastrous events out of great mental stress caused by frequent disruptions.
Path To Enlightenment
As stated in the introduction, this combination gives inclination towards attaining salvation through transformation and inner enlightenment.
This effect is supported by the sudden events and difficult periods that the native and their partner is prompted to go through. All the pain, struggle, and depression because of literally walking in the darkness of uncertainty trigger the process which helps the native and their partner to see the light at the end of the tunnel.
If this combination is well-placed, it is a real blessing in disguise as the darkness helps to notice the beauty of the stars. It helps to find the path to salvation or enlightenment.
It makes both the natives and their spouses search inner light and enlightenment together. They have a strong desire to attain salvation or in other words, reach heaven afterlife.
This is another way how this combination is able to transform people into better versions of themselves.
Alternatively, if the 7th lord is ill-placed in the 8th house, it indicates that the native is bereft of morality which also hinders the process of becoming enlightened. It also indicates that the native has bad influence form their partner which fails to transform both to betterness. Instead of this, it makes both of them take on illegal or bad life path where they commit a lot of sins.
Extremely Passionate Spouse
As the 7th carries desireful energies, while the 8th is a natural domain of the 8th zodiac sign Scorpio denoting passion, this combination produces an extremely passionate character to the spouse.
In other words, the spouse of the native has a lot of sensual desires and a strong urge for physical intimacy. It also applies to the native.
Hence, they are fond of sharing intimate passion in a very colorful and deep way, and often.
It also means that the spouse is physically very active, strong, and durable.
As the 7th ruler gives direct aspect upon the 2nd house of values, it indicates that the native gives a lot of value to these character traits of their spouse. They are more than pleased to seduce their passionate partner.
On the contrary, if the combination is ill-formed, that is, if the 7t lord is in bad dignity, it indicates that the spouse fo the native is very (sensually) dirty and performs many deceitful acts out of bad desires. This also causes the spouse of the native to be very disobedient as stated by ancient classical source BPHS.
Moreover, the bad dignity of the 7th ruler in the 8th house causes the strength to be directed negatively. That is, indicates that the spouse becomes aggressive, cruel, and violent.
Sudden Events In Marriage
This combination triggers a lot of sudden events that cause either sudden losses or gains depending on the condition of the 7th lord in the 8th house.
the reason for this is hidden in the depths of the 8th house which denotes everything unexpected and uncertain. As the 7th ruler in the 8th house is in 2nd from its own sign, it indicates uncertainty about wealth matters in the first place.
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Religious truth & wisdom to bless your life
Keep repenting and repeating secretly in mind: "God is enough for me and I bear witness that there is no other worthy of worship than the Almighty Creator alone" for the joy and abundance of God to flow in.
(Surat al-Baqarah 2:163)
Whoever makes the Hereafter (aims for piety & righteousness to attain salvation) his/her goal, Allah (english: God) makes his/her heart rich, and organizes his/her affairs, and the world comes to him/her whether it wants to or not.
(Jami` at-Tirmidhi 2465)
And God is the most merciful and loving. The God Almighty said: By My might and majesty, I will continue to forgive them, as long as they seek My forgiveness.
(Musnad Aḥmad 11237)
And God protects the faithul more than a caring Mother protects her child.
(Sahih al-Bukhari 5999)
Do not perform idolatry, impiety, disrespect for parents. Never endanger lives (saving one life is like saving whole humanity). Do not commit theft, adultery, false witness (disregard all cruel conspiracies towards innocent believers), and do not envy.
(Surat al-An’am 6:151-153)
The Messenger of God [PBUH] used to stress charity in his sermons, and prohibit mutilation. But protect truth and believers at all costs.
(Sunan an-Nasa'i 4047)
There must be no racism, sects, tribes, or gangs amongst you, and take special care of women, and increased rewards get those who educate women especially who suffer in calamities.
(The Last Sermon, Riyad as-Salihin 278)
Holy Prophet [PBUH] raised the status of and established legal rights for women which were never present before, and protected them from harassment, and stressed duty and good treatment to mother. Also, completely prohibited injustice towards girl-children (unjust people used to get rid of them for financial reasons).(Sahih al-Bukhari 3446, Al-Adab Al-Mufrad 5, al-Baqarah 2:228)
All people are practically beleivers if they believe in one God, The Prophets (some of them: Solomon, Moses, Jesus) and The Seal of Prophets (Muhammad) peace be upon them. That is, do not be quick to judge and leave judgment to God except when there is direct threat to righteous beleivers.
All people are practically beleivers if they believe in one God, The Prophets (some of them: Solomon, Moses, Jesus) and The Seal of Prophets (Muhammad) peace be upon them. That is, do not be quick to judge and leave judgment to God except when there is direct threat to righteous beleivers.
I heard Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying while pointing his hands towards the east: The turmoil would appear from this side; verily, the turmoil would appear from this side (he repeated it thrice)(Sahih Muslim 2905e).Muhammad [PBUH] was most akin to Jesus [PBUH], who is coming back, and the best of people will be under protection of Jesus [PBUH].
Some of The Last Words of God via The Last Prophet [PBUH]
(Riyad as-Salihin 1808)
Hence, if this combination if well-formed, it indicates that marriage triggers a lot of unexpected windfalls or gains of wealth.
Marriage enables both the native and their spouse for the discovery of hidden miracles of life because it makes them value enlightenment, spiritual values, and be grateful for everything in life, even in the hardest of times.
Another reason they are blessed with sudden improvements in life is that they motivate each other to become better in the first place. All the little changes towards betterness drastically increase the chances of success and prosperity.
In addition to that, as the 8th house is 2nd (family) of the 7th house, it signifies the family of the spouse. Hence, the gains can come through the in-laws. It also indicates that in-laws might be very rich and wealthy. Otherwise, the native and spouse rise from ashes from the bottom and build up their own success.
The sudden gain can be also in form of lottery or inheritance either by native or their spouse, as the 8th house significance suggests “unearned” wealth or that is pending to be given to the native as per karmic records.
It is self-explanatory that if this combination is ill-placed, it indicates a very greedy and immoral character of the natives and their spouse which causes them to influence each other negatively. It also makes them step towards sinful paths which according to the law of karma, causes sudden losses, disruptions, disasters, and other similar events.
It also indicates that the natives can be involved in illegal and sinful underground or hidden activities together.
Sudden Events In Joint Ventures
As the 7th house also denotes all kinds of partnerships, including business partnerships, this combination also brings uncertainty to the entrepreneurship arena of the native.
As the 2nd disposition is the house of value, the positioning of 7th lord in 8th house indicates that the native gives a great value to law, regulations, equity, and compassion.
As the 8th is the house of salvation, it also indicates that the native gives great value to spiritual law and principles while being active in marketplaces, partnerships in work, or entrepreneurship.
When combining those values and considering the 2nd disposition, it promises to be a very gainful position when the native is involved in joint ventures.
Moreover, this combination indicates that the natives and their partners in work or business are also motivated to promote spiritual and moral principles with their activities which transforms the society for the better. It is because the 7th also rules over society and societal norms.
If this combination is well-formed, it is a very strong indicator of being involved in projects where a great influence of enlightenment is given to society.
On the contrary, if this combination is ill-formed, it indicates that the native is involved in the partnership with sinful and illegal people where wealth is gained illegally. As per the law of karma, the earned wealth either will be lost suddenly or they will never enjoy it.
Fearless In Society
This combination prompts the natives to undergo a lot of struggles and difficult periods, which also forces the natives to be faced with all fears. As a result of this combination makes the native extremely fearless as far as societal matters, marketplaces and entrepreneurship are concerned.
As the 7th lord is involved, these natives experience hardships within partnerships which makes them train their minds to become stronger and wiser.
As a result, they develop unusual hidden sense or intuition which helps them to choose the best partners in business. Their gut feelings guide them towards beneficial and correct decisions if the 7th lord is well placed.
In society, these natives are observed as extremely fearless personalities who are willing to put in all effort and risk without any fears of loss.
If the combination is ill-formed, it indicates a lot of hatred and humiliation form the society because of the immoral, greedy, and sinful nature of the native with this bad example of this combination.
Deeply Influential Speech
The 2nd house, which is aspected by the 7th lord in the 8th house, also indicates the face and speech of the native. It reflects the values that the native expresses through their style of speaking.
With the 7th lord influencing it from the 8th house, it makes their speech very deeply transformational with motivating and encouraging intonation. After all, the speech is capable of transforming the masses of society.
As the 7th lord is involved, they often talk about fairness, justice, and equity, but with a very forceful and aggressive undertone. Their speech is so dark and deep which makes their opponents tremble out of fear. With that being said, they have a very fierce and frightening facial appearance.
great insights thank you!!!
amazing knowledge.
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lord of 7th house in 8th retrograde mars in taurus in rohini. Venus and the Sun in the second house. Venus in Jyestha. upapada in 3rd house with mercury and saturn. Upapada lord Jupiter in 10th house in Ashlesha. Mercury darakaraka in mula nakshatra. a7 in the 9 house.
rahu in 4th house.
very good write up
I found this to be EXTREMELY accurate.
Hi! how do I know if my planetary ruler has good dignity? I am an Aquarius ascendant. My seventh house lord is in my eighth house because my sun is in Virgo in the eighth house. Please help me!
Hello
To determined planetary dignity, it is important to see in which sign it is placed. If it is in the sign of its friend, it has good dignity. When it is in its own or exaltation sign, the dignity is highest. If a planet is in enemy or debilitation sign, the dignity is lowered. However, there are special rules that cancel enmity and debilitation.
In your situation, Sun is in good natural dignity because it is located in the sign of its friend Mercury, which is the ruler of Virgo.
Best wishes
My 7th house lord is mars , which is in taurus sign, wnd is placed in 8th house.
Is it a good dignity or negative..please answer
Hello Rohit
According to the planetary relationship rule of Jyotish, Mars in Taurus is neutral or average giving half good half negative results.
The five-fold relationship gives more details. Depending on where your Venus is, deeper and final outcomes can be estimated.
Best wishes
Hello,
What if 7th lord venus sit in 8th house with saturn in scorpio. And the lord of 8th house, mars sit in 12th house with rahu in pisces?
I have moon in 8th house (Virgo), and moon is 7h house lord. Is that good or bad dignity?Mercury is in Aquarius, 1st house
Hello Mika
Thank you for the clear question. Moon in Virgo is in good dignity naturally. When combining placement of Mercury, which is in 6th from Moon, it causes temporary enmity. Friendship combined with temporary enmity creates neutrality. In conclusion, Moon in your chart is in good shape which indicates many good results or outcomes coming from the 7th lord in the 8th after an initial struggle or hard work.
Best wishes
Hi, great article!
I have a question about my planetary dignity. I am an aquiarius rising with my sun in scorpio (scorpio is in the 8th house of my natal chart), house 7 is ruling the sun because my 7th house is in leo🤓
Hello Nadia!
Thank you for sharing your question. Sun in Scorpio is in good dignity because Mars and Sun are natural friends according to Vedic astrology.
Best wishes
This has been eye opening. Thank you!
Great work . Thanks Alot dear
Hello Sir
Thank you for your kind words.
Best wishes
Hi great article, but can you tell me something about my planets’s dignity? I’m an aries ascendant with venus(7th house lord) placed in the 8th house in scorpio sign. Its also conjunct with mars and ketu there.
Hello
Thank you very much for your feedback. Venus in Scorpio is neutral as per natural relationship. However, Mars (ruler of Scorpio) is in 1st from Venus which creates temporary enmity. Hence, Venus in your chart is inimical towards Mars (five-fold dignity).
Best wishes
Hi. Can you tell is my 7th lord in bad dignity or what?
I am virgo Ascendant 7th Lord Jupiter retrograde in 8th house with retrograde saturn and moon.. Can you predict something out of this planetary position???
Hello Shi
I do not predict, ancient authorities already did that for us. I simply transfer this info to you.
According to the information you provided, 7th lord Jupiter is in Aries which is in good dignity. It also means that you need to integrate the results of this article with the ones mentioned in Jupiter in Aries.
Retrograde Jupiter is said to make a person extremely wise (religiously) and selfless but also excessively unsuspicious/trusting/naive. You need to be careful not to be taken advantage of by negative people.
Best wishes
Thanks a lot from the core of my heart for replying ❤❤
Hie .
I am Virgo ascendent . I have 7th lord ( Jupiter) in 8th house of sign of Aries along with satrun. Can u tell me who will be my partner and how will be my married life, plus anything else which is important to know .
Thankyou 🙂
Hello dear reader
Thank you for sharing your question. There are a lot of things to consider when trying to look at the nature of your spouse through your birth chart. What you shared with me is one small but important part. It is a good place to start from.
First of all, your spouse has traits signified by Jupiter. In Aries, it shows that she is very straightforward, outgoing, and dear. She will like to act in accordance with ethics and morals.
The conjunction with fallen Saturn can make her unusual. She may be in confusion, often. She will like to do things in a unique manner that others do not understand and clash with.
There can be severe fluctuations in marriage but as Jupiter is dignified, you both find strength in each other and mutual hardships. These struggles grow you together and make you both more humble.
I shared some quick feelings about this combination. Can not write long in comments while there is tons of talk to do with just these combinations you shared.
Best wishes for your marriage
Thank you very much for such insightful and deep explanation. Jupiter is 7th lord for me and in Capricorn in 8th house. I could related with a lot of points here.
Taurus asendent,
Mars, Venus, Mercury, Sun in 8th house.
Ketu in 1st. Rahu in 7th.
Jupiter, moon in 6th.
Satun in 10th.
Is this ill placed?
Hello Raj
A stellium is almost always difficult to handle but in your situation, things are smoother. That is because the relation of planets in a stellium with their dispositor Jupiter is improved. When it comes to the 7th lord Mars in 8th, it is also positive because Jupiter is in 11th from it increasing dignity and relation. Hence, the roller coaster in conjugal life leads to positive transformations for both. Also, a very passionate and authoritative spouse is indicated. The intellect of a spouse can be driven by religious wisdom or spirituality (less analytical drive and more interest in spiritual topics).
My 7th lord is in 8th and i was sagittarius
is it good or what?
Please check the dispositor of Cancer Mercury, which is the Moon. It determines the final dignity (five-fold) and the general outcome of 7th lord in 8th house.
What does 7 th lord in the 8 th house indicate about higher learning/ about research in the field of psychology?
It all depends on the planet in sign, nakshatra, and pada. When looking at only the info you provided, then it can indicate partnership/collaboration to gain knowledge through matters that are underneath the surface which definitely requires research or investigation.
What if this combination happens in D9? My D9 is Taurus Ascendant with Ketu and Moon also placed there, Sun Venus Mars in Sagittarius(8th), Rahu in 7th(Scorpio), Mercury in 2nd (Gemini) and Jupiter, Saturn in Aries(12th).
Thank you.
The 7th lord in 8th is in parivartan with its dispositor, which is also naturally friendly. So it is a good set of combinations. However, more important is to check the 7th lord of D1 in D9. It shows your inclination towards your spouse. The 7th lord of D9 shows the inclination of spouse towards your marriage together.
Sir, I am passionate about astrology and keep reading various books, articles etc. I must say you article is well researched and logical. Keep it up.
Also, would it possbile to tell how will my martial life be? I am cancer ascendant with sun in first house, have capricon in 7th with no planet deposed there, saturn(5 degree) is in its own sign ie. acquarius in 8th. Mars and moon in 2nd House, Jupiter in 3rd house, North Node in 5th, south node and venus in 11th and mercury in 12house. I thank you in advance for your time and efforts. God bless you.
Thank you very much Sir for your kind wishes and feedback. I am really grateful for your blessings. God bless you too, Sir.
Marital life can be a true roller coaster full of sudden events that shake hearts. However, as the 7th lord is dignified in his own sign, the events shake matters into correct places, mostly.
Also, marital life can be really transformative in a hard way but towards positive direction for both. It can be also really gainful after you become married in financial perspective as both of you transform each other to a more mature versions morally and financially.
With this combination it is highly possible that you find your partner in unusual circumstances which can frighten you a bit but do not judge quickly and give room for improvement as we all make mistakes and everything will get better soon. When usually marriages start wonderfully and some of them can become troublesome in later years, then natives with this combination start marriage difficultly and lead a wonderful marriage life later.
Awesome awesome article. Thank you soo much.
Hi! I have Virgo ascendant and my 7th lord Jupiter is in aris 8th house in Ashwini pada (3) with Saturn also in 8th house in bharani pada (2) and 8th lord Mars is in 7th house uttrabhadra pada (4) making parivartan yog
While Venus in 5th house with ketu
Hello
have 7th house in 8th house in Saturn for ascendant Leo do you marry an older person?
So I saw with my ex-wife that she always wanted to control me in this position.
Thanks