3rd House Lord in 2nd House


Last updated on November 26th, 2022 at 03:48 pm

What does the 3rd House Lord in 2nd House mean?

When the planet which rules over the third house of the birth chart is positioned in the second house from the ascendant sign, it means to have the 3rd lord in the 2nd as per sidereal Vedic astrology.

As a general effect of this combination, the significations of the 2nd house, such as accumulated wealth, assets, values, self-worth, family values & traditions, mental resources & talents, speech, vision, etc. are influenced by the significances of the 3rd house, such as valor, courage, motivation, skills, efforts, ability to take action, hobbies, short travels, mental strength & intellect, written & verbal communication, communication technologies, as well as cousins, younger siblings, etc.

The 3rd house is a mild malefic representing minor challenges that push one to develop effort and skills. The 2nd house is a Maraka Bhava which means that it carries significances that have the capacity to cause damage to something.

Besides this, when the 3rd house ruler is in the 2nd house, it is in the 12th sign from its own sign. Herein the 12th house is a Dusthana Bhava which carries difficult and destructive significances except for those who submit to God and see beauty in sacrifice and detachment.

Hence, this combination is generally inauspicious except in specific conditions when dignity is restored. Classics mention that a naturally benefic planet as 3rd ruler indicates happiness in these results while natural malefic yields the opposite. Let us learn about different situations when this combination indicates either good or bad outcomes.

Results of 3rd House Lord in 2nd House

Courage Is Humility

The majorly known topic of the 3rd house is courage which makes the 3rd house ruler an important factor to see how this energy thrives inside one’s soul.

With the 3rd house ruler being in 12th from its own sign, the courage generally becomes dissolved. That is because the 12th signifies loss, detachment, or expense of something for something.

Whether it has positive outcomes or not depends on many factors. From the Vedic perspective, if the 3rd ruler is dignified, then the outcomes are auspicious. Otherwise leads to acts similar to what cowards do when threatened.

It is always better to concentrate on positivity than negativity. Speaking of which, the 12th disposition also carries positive effects because it signifies the ultimate goal of each and every soul, which is to earn the love of God Almighty, the owner of everything in this universe, and attain salvation or reunite with God in Paradise. It signifies the fact that inhabitants of Earth are lost souls who desperately seek ultimate fulfillment which is the aspiration to attain salvation.

Coming back to courage, it is truly expressed when the native is threatened with the loss of everything, but still remains true to one’s path and word, one is truly valorous. Hence, this combination actually reveals great courage in the worst situations and proves it to be true.

When generally this combination leads to various inauspicious results as a chain of events caused by bad habits, there are specific exceptions that can be proven with classical sources.

The first example which indicates auspicious outcomes is from Aries Ascendant whose 3rd house ruler Mercury is dignified in 2nd house Taurus. The friendly dignity shows a positive approach towards difficult situations and losses which leads to tremendous improvement of purity of soul leading to great results.

According to the classics, Taurus Mercury natives are highly charitable which makes it easy for them to be detached from personal desires. In fact, the latter are signified by the 3rd house which belongs to the triangle of desires in Vedic.

The greatest test of courage on the earth is to bear defeat without losing heart.

R. G. Ingersoll

The ability to detach from personal benefits makes it easy to remain on one path and not be led astray by threats, even when temporary losses are imminent when choosing to remain on a specific path.

Another auspicious scenario comes from Taurus Ascendant natives whose 3rd house ruler Moon is in 2nd house Gemini. According to the classics, these individuals find delight in righteousness and are inclined towards serving the truth and God. Yet, these natives appear to be different in the public (for their vices). Here it is relevant to include a friendly reminder that it is never good to rush to conclusions and judge someone unrighteously for it is a major sin to call a (secret) believer as being an unbeliever. God knows best.

The third auspicious scenario comes from Libra Ascendant whose 3rd house ruler Jupiter is dignified in the 2nd house Scorpio. According to the classical source Brihat Jataka, these natives are kind, charitable, and famous (prosperous) for the same. The selflessness of Scorpio Jupiter natives and their willingness to accept temporary defeat courageously inspires others tremendously. They are awarded a great position in society with great coworkers, teammates, or subordinates by God Almighty for their persistence in the path of truth despite great opposition.

Acquired Helplessness Sets Free

Having elaborated on the general benefits of detachments and the fruits of persistence on a pious path, it is also important to discuss the religious effects and meanings of calamities.

Because of the intonation of a Dusthana Bhava or malefic house in this combination, these natives might become subjects to depression caused by prolonged helplessness due to loss of control.

Then and there the believers (of one God and Truth) were put to the test, and were violently shaken.

Surah Al-Ahzab 33:11

The helplessness appears during the main or sub-periods of the 3rd house ruler in the 2nd house where they are forced to let go of something valuable (2nd) in their life. Along with that, the ambitions (3rd) might become delayed until a valuable lesson is learned.

This lesson is a test from God Almighty to see whether the native is willing to give up everything while remaining loyal to truth and righteousness. The ones easy to pass this trial or test are those who see calamities or major difficulties as the greatest blessings in disguise.

I have personally endured such a period having Mercury as the 12th house ruler in the 11th house Taurus which yields similar results regarding difficulties. The sub-period (Antardasha) of Mercury brought me to a position where I had to lose a lot in order to protect the truth. To add more, I had to lose almost everything I achieved 3 times in a row during the span of the sub-period of Taurus Mercury. The chain of events also led to a situation where I had to lose the home I aspired to for years while not having any regret for my decisions. Back then I did not exactly know if they were tests or not but I simply felt ease in my soul to suffer losses instead of submitting to an incorrect path.

As astrological combinations are not spiritual laws, then this combination is not responsible for my actions. Though a correlation between the effects described by ancient sages for Taurus Mercury and my situation is there indicating that a dignified Mercury made it easy for me to detach from my ambitions in the name of God and his servants (righteous & truthful people, who suffered).

Instead of having a feeling of loss and despair, I had great ease in my heart. This is learned helplessness at its best. After all, people are not masters of their own lives but servants of God for he rewards us with success after trials for our deeds and courage. Those who really believe (in God and his mercy and protection), find nothing but joy in helplessness when God picks them up after becoming durable enough.

And ˹remember˺ when We took a covenant from the prophets, as well as from you ˹O Prophet˺, and from Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus, son of Mary. We did take a solemn covenant from ˹all of˺ them

Surah Al-Ahzab 33:7

The outcomes of my personal sacrifices may have seemed disastrous for some, but the sacrifices and apparent “losses” led me to a far greater path, which I am on now which is to learn the words of Saints and Prophets throughout time, including the ones of The Last Prophet [PBUH].

According to my experience, I can boldly say that accepting situations and learning helplessness, and submitting to God for help is the best thing to happen to anyone which sets free and eases the tension in the soul.

When the believers saw the enemy alliance, they said, “This is what Allah and His Messenger had promised us. The promise of God and His Last Messenger [PBUH] has come true.” And this only increased them (who were tested) in faith and submission.

Surah Al-Ahzab 33:22

According to religious wisdom, heavy opposition and calamities caused by it are truly nothing but great trials to see if a believer is sincere and courageous. Never sacrifice faith and eternal bliss (Paradise) to just enjoy a temporary illusion a little more. Also, never submit to fear and train to treat the huge opposition as a temporary illusion.

Rock Bottom Teach Great Lessons

In BPHS it is mentioned that individuals with this combination are prompted to start from scratch or rock bottom. According to the effects and topics of this combination discussed so far, this result is self-explanatory.

The loss and detachment for personal ambitions, gains, and other valuables (2nd) in one way or another lead to a situation where rock bottom is experienced.

However, one should not despair as rock bottoms teach lessons that comfort and success never will. Speaking of which, if one is willing to suffer temporary losses and sacrifices deliberately with ease is capable of using rock bottom to jump to even greater heights than initially expected with increased lessons from difficulties.

Looking at this wisdom from a religious perspective, the birth on Earth is actually a rock bottom that can either lift one to the greatest heights or cause sinkage to even lower dimensions according to deeds and courage. So every soul on Earth can use birth on Earth to prove to God Almighty that they are capable of remaining faithful and via that earn unimaginable destinations here and hereafter.

Sorrows Cause Weariness

Another matter mentioned in classical sources is unhappiness and a feeling of weariness. This is also a sub-effect of previously mentioned results.

The sorrows, which are amplified during the planetary period of the 3rd house ruler in the 2nd house, cause a temporary loss of motivation which leads to a loss of eagerness to increase effort.

However, with hardship, there is always ease. When the native is able to see the reason for their setbacks, they deal with the root cause of it, increase faith, and soon continue with even greater power to take action and increase efforts.

With faith, those efforts lead to beautiful destinations where the results nor happiness are not decreasing, even when wealth is spent. Regarding wealth, God has sufficient amount to provide for the necessary needs of every person.

The world has enough for everyone’s need, but not enough for everyone’s greed.

Mahatma Gandhi

Specific authorities on earth are those inspired by this knowledge to keep a healthy balance between profit, consumption, and expenses which also protects people from becoming consumed by their own uncontrolled desires. This situation also prompts masses to work and increase skills proportionally with gains. One can not even comprehend how many issues are solved with a healthy balance.

Dormant Courage

The 3rd house ruler signifies courage and the 12th disposition indicates some hurdles or blockages regarding expressing valor.

Because of understandable reasons courage remains dormant within these natives during the significant periods of the 3rd house ruler.

Religious truth & wisdom to bless your life

Keep repenting and repeating secretly in mind: "God is enough for me and I bear witness that there is no other worthy of worship than the Almighty Creator alone" for the joy and abundance of God to flow in.
(Surat al-Baqarah 2:163)

Whoever makes the Hereafter (aims for piety & righteousness to attain salvation) his/her goal, Allah (english: God) makes his/her heart rich, and organizes his/her affairs, and the world comes to him/her whether it wants to or not.
(Jami` at-Tirmidhi 2465)

And God is the most merciful and loving. The God Almighty said: By My might and majesty, I will continue to forgive them, as long as they seek My forgiveness.
(Musnad Aḥmad 11237)

And God protects the faithul more than a caring Mother protects her child.
(Sahih al-Bukhari 5999)

Do not perform idolatry, impiety, disrespect for parents. Never endanger lives (saving one life is like saving whole humanity). Do not commit theft, adultery, false witness (disregard all cruel conspiracies towards innocent believers), and do not envy.
(Surat al-An’am 6:151-153)

The Messenger of God [PBUH] used to stress charity in his sermons, and prohibit mutilation. But protect truth and believers at all costs.
(Sunan an-Nasa'i 4047)

There must be no racism, sects, tribes, or gangs amongst you, and take special care of women, and increased rewards get those who educate women especially who suffer in calamities.
(The Last Sermon, Riyad as-Salihin 278)

Holy Prophet [PBUH] raised the status of and established legal rights for women which were never present before, and protected them from harassment, and stressed duty and good treatment to mother. Also, completely prohibited injustice towards girl-children (unjust people used to get rid of them for financial reasons).

(Sahih al-Bukhari 3446, Al-Adab Al-Mufrad 5, al-Baqarah 2:228)

All people are practically beleivers if they believe in one God, The Prophets (some of them: Solomon, Moses, Jesus) and The Seal of Prophets (Muhammad) peace be upon them. That is, do not be quick to judge and leave judgment to God except when there is direct threat to righteous beleivers.

All people are practically beleivers if they believe in one God, The Prophets (some of them: Solomon, Moses, Jesus) and The Seal of Prophets (Muhammad) peace be upon them. That is, do not be quick to judge and leave judgment to God except when there is direct threat to righteous beleivers.
I heard Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying while pointing his hands towards the east: The turmoil would appear from this side; verily, the turmoil would appear from this side (he repeated it thrice)(Sahih Muslim 2905e).

Muhammad [PBUH] was most akin to Jesus [PBUH], who is coming back, and the best of people will be under protection of Jesus [PBUH].
(Riyad as-Salihin 1808)

Some of The Last Words of God via The Last Prophet [PBUH]

It also leads to stations when the native is forced to develop a characteristic to beg for something. Similarly, self-esteem becomes trampled by such situations (2nd is self-worth). Do not let temporary setbacks take the best of you and always trust God in everything.

As mentioned before, the best way to cope with it is to surrender to God and let God take care of all your troubles. This is the period where God teaches that one must be still, silent, and correct when there is nothing to do. A person must beg only from God (who is your forever protector) because sinful people might abuse those who show weakness to their enemies.

This period teaches that God is in charge and in full control over everything. All the difficulties and blessings of Earth are nothing but trials. God knows best.

Sweet Communication Style

The connection between 2nd and 3rd Vedic houses are important factors that help to determine the way of expressing thoughts, using words and communication style in general.

That is because the 2nd house is about mental resources and speech (mouth) while the 3rd is a powerhouse of the 2nd house which signifies communication.

Furthermore, the 5th house is the powerhouse of the 3rd house indicating outcomes, fruits, and creation of results via communication and efforts to put mental resources into practice.

Technically explained, the 2nd from the 2nd is the 3rd, while the 3rd from the 3rd is the 5th Vedic house of creation and fruits.

The 12th disposition formed by the 3rd house ruler in 12th place from its own sign influences the intonation of the speech and communication. As we already know, the 12th carries the humble and kind energies of Pisces. Hence, the speech becomes influenced by the intonation of humility, kindness, and politeness making it very sweet.

This effect is especially prominent for Taurus Mercury and Gemini Moon examples, where the natural benefic planet is the carrier of communication. According to Vridh Yavanjatka, when a naturally benefic planet forms this combination indicates the attainment of happiness despite many sorrowful periods.

When it comes to Virgo Ascendant, the 3rd house ruler Mars in the 2nd house Libra indicates having very attractive speech but also a tendency to cause destruction, strive, and conflicts due to incorrect speech or specific lies due to selfish pursuits. So one must increase awareness and carefulness to filter out all unnecessary words from speech to protect themselves from unnecessary troubles.

Battle With Over-Sensuality & Immorality

According to BPHS, this combination causes a lack of gratitude, misery, and a tendency to chase after others’ wealth and partners. When combining this classical verse with other ones, it is clear that this effect is valid under certain conditions while in most cases this result shall not manifest.

In cases where this effect is prominent, battling with sensual desires is very actual where one must put in increased efforts to overcome bad habits regarding physical enjoyment.

When it comes to looking after singles, it is not spiritually so dangerous, but one must keep in mind that they must treat everyone equally, not abandon one for another, and have the best intentions to take care of everyone and not chase others for selfish purposes.

The most relevant example to bring here comes from Leo Ascendant, whose 3rd house ruler Venus is debilitated in the 2nd house, Virgo. According to the classics, Virgo Venus natives tend to chase outer beauty. This puts one in danger of forgetting about the real beauty which starts from the inside and extends the outer beauty.

If that is the case, one attracts sorrows due to a chain of events caused by bad decisions in the relationship due to spiritual blindness to love matters. The ingratitude about a partner arises when too much criticism is expressed regarding beauty and comparison between people occurs. Far more dangerous is the situation when ingratitude causes shifting an eye on the other person’s partner thinking that there must be something beautiful in them.

Let that thing go and know that all people are beautiful in their own way and can not be compared for every creation of God is as unique as it can be.

While looking after singles is not so dangerous (except for one’s soul if desires are untamed), one must be aware that chasing after the spouse of another person is counted as a major sin (right after blasphemy) because matrimony is a divine law by God and for the best reasons. When this law is not respected, major destruction and sorrow will follow.

Furthermore, the debilitation of the 12th disposition causes using sweet intonation of words for unethical purposes to seduce others selfishly. However, if the cancellation occurs (in most cases), then these natives learn from bad decisions and are able to transform them into great results. God loves people who make mistakes but learn from them and strive to improve themselves and their situations.

Another example and lesson come from Virgo Ascendant, whose 3rd house ruler Mars is in 2nd house Libra. According to Brihat Jataka, Libra Mars indicates attraction towards spouses of other people. This leads to a chain of events leading to other inauspicious results including increased enmity with friends and defeat via female figures (Libra & Venus signify females). Saravali states that loss of first spouse and wealth is possible probably due to previously indicated mistakes.

The latter effect is actually a blessing for these natives as females teach them lessons in the best suitable ways leading to a realization about what is a good thing to do and what is not. As Mars is neutral towards Venus, the ruler of Libra, the bad decisions will rarely manifest fully due to events causing these natives to surrender to helpless situations that will increase knowledge and maturity.

Expenses On Pleasures

As the twelfth house also denotes sensual activities, it is indicated that 3rd lord in 2nd causes natives to spend their wealth to increase sensual enjoyment or refine experiences regarding the fulfillment of desires.

If the considered lord is ill-placed it indicates immoral activities regarding sensuality and loss of wealth in account of that.

A positive case scenario indicates an ability to keep a balance between the enjoyment of desires while maintaining ethics which is also healthy from a financial perspective. Not to mention, altogether it indicates the ability to control one’s desires and remain on a healthy path.

Expenses On Development

A positive case scenario indicates safety from the financial perspective which also leaves sufficient resources for the development of personal skills, which are signified by the 3rd house.

Technically speaking, the 12th disposition of expenses between the 3rd and 2nd house positively indicates increased expenses on personal assets, intangible values, and personal skills. Such expenses eventually bring a healthy return bigger than initially spent, when done correctly.

Also, in such a positive case it is also suggested that native spends their wealth in order to regain motivation and become a better version of themselves.

Untamed Desires Cause Losses

The 3rd house belongs to the Kama Trikona or the triangle of desire while the 2nd house in Vedic astrology belongs to the Artha Trikona or the triangle of wealth.

Accordingly, if the third house lord comes to the second house, it indicates an increased desire for wealth. At the same time, it is a hard placement as being in twelfth from its own sign.

This set of permutations causes the inability to gain as much wealth as desired which causes jealousy and resentment. Accordingly, excessively increased desire actually cause the loss of many other things. Therefore, maintaining balance is crucial.

For instance, when the ambitions are uncontrolled, one may start gambling instead of actually working towards their goals. Everyone knows what are the consequences of gambling and rewards of the sincere hard-working people. The best way to maintain a balance between present and future ambitions is to practice gratitude as much as possible.

Natives who fail to keep balance may develop jealousy when witnessing the success of other people. That is why BPHS also states envious nature which reflects an increased desire for other people’s wealth.

Being in a different situation than others does not mean that one is less blessed. In fact, the most blessed are those who do not link wealth with success. That is because the true success of every soul is purity and love from God. And when the timing is right and the state of maturity of a person allows, God will trust increased resources and wealth for a good person.

Note that some bad people also do get wealth but which is not auspicious for them. They beg it in bad ways which carry dangers for their own selves and build dependence on bad people. Always strive to be independent of the immoral and build trust in God and his loyal servants (truthful people). This makes one undefeatable even in front of the biggest dangers.

Tamed Desires Cause Loss Of Hardships

On a positive note, the combination of a third-house ruler in the second house causes also a loss of hurdles that are connected to the 3rd house (Dusthana Bhava).

However, for beneficial results, the given lord should be well-placed in the second house sign-wise.

In the situation when the given lord is well placed it also causes a good financial situation actually. In such condition, native has lessened greed which attracts healthy and long-lasting wealth.

Moreover, it is more promised as there are fewer hardships as mentioned above (if well placed). In such a positive case, wealth is further spent on auspicious activities that actually help gain self-worth, intelligence, skills, and strength. As a result, native is able to put in more effort to gain wealth.

The 3rd lord of communicative abilities, both writing and speaking, in the 2nd house becomes an important aspect of how the native gains wealth.

Accordingly, with this combination, the native uses the skills of writing, publishing, and communicating within the local networks (3rd) in order to earn wealth (2nd).

Communication and intelligence become your most valuable personal assets. Hence, one should always concentrate on developing your intelligence regarding communication with others through written and verbal forms.

Influence Of Siblings

The 3rd house belongs to younger siblings. The considered lord in the 2nd house gives the influence of siblings to the family and the wealth of the native.

If the third lord is ill-placed in the second house it indicates that the siblings of the native cause hurdles to family life and wealth. In other words, siblings may cause financial losses and the destruction of family values.

If the third lord is well placed in the second house, it actually indicates siblings are helpful to the native by improving the financial condition of individuals with this combination.

It also indicates that siblings are very helpful to the native regarding the gain of courage, skills, motivation, and wealth. It also indicates that siblings are far from the native (12th house significance).

Classical Sources Used: BPHS, Saravali, Brihat Jataka, Lal Kitab, Yavan Jataka. References to The Last Word of God are included not to mix Sunnah Kitab or Quran with worldly science, but to offer the best cure for worldly issues. Always know that this science and the latest religious revelations are separated from each other for more than 5000 years. If you were to evolve from old Vedic science and adopt the latest religious teaching, the leap is worth more than 5000 years of human evolution. I am currently conducting theological updates on all articles, hence some errors may be there. All credit for increased wisdom goes to the best & brightest man who ever walked on Earth who is no other than the Greatest Blessing For Humanity & Seal of Prophets Muhammad ﷺ, and people who kindly taught me the Word of God. All glory to God Almighty.

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Martin Boldovski

All the articles are based on the information given by Ancient Sages as seen from various classical sources which are addressed to Vedic enthusiasts. My intention is to deliver this knowledge in the most original form possible, i.e free of blasphemy, with elaborated explanations which are supported by actual observations to help Vedic enthusiasts get rid of confusion and introduce the right guidance via The Last Word to get closer to God and attain inner bliss.

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